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Old 07-04-2009, 11:31 AM
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I feel for ya, I hate it when I do something like that.
OMG, I'm going to go cover mine right now....nothing better than learning from someone else's trouble!

Just comin' in on this thread...got my 5.4 ripped apart in the driveway now. Out of 8 studs total, I'm having to extract 4. One is broke off below the surface of the head...Cobalt drill bit here I come. (wondering if I can find a reverse drill in Cobalt?). I have 2 that were sheered off like yours...those I got the vice grips on with every damn ounce of strength I had and as tight as possible...they are slowly coming out. I've got yet one more that will not budge at all...vice grips are just spinning on it...don't know how better to grab it and don't have welding tools...or an old nut to even weld on since NONE of them backed off! Been soaking in liquid wrench all night, so hopefully that will change today. I'm not hopeful. My dad tells me I'd probably be better served at this point just breaking it off and drilling it out since I'm going to have to go that road with one anyway.

Thoughts, opinions? We all know the pictures and the carniage...same crap, same motor...different vin!
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OMG, I'm going to go cover mine right now....nothing better than learning from someone else's trouble!

Just comin' in on this thread...got my 5.4 ripped apart in the driveway now. Out of 8 studs total, I'm having to extract 4. One is broke off below the surface of the head...Cobalt drill bit here I come. (wondering if I can find a reverse drill in Cobalt?). I have 2 that were sheered off like yours...those I got the vice grips on with every damn ounce of strength I had and as tight as possible...they are slowly coming out. I've got yet one more that will not budge at all...vice grips are just spinning on it...don't know how better to grab it and don't have welding tools...or an old nut to even weld on since NONE of them backed off! Been soaking in liquid wrench all night, so hopefully that will change today. I'm not hopeful. My dad tells me I'd probably be better served at this point just breaking it off and drilling it out since I'm going to have to go that road with one anyway.

Thoughts, opinions? We all know the pictures and the carniage...same crap, same motor...different vin!
Been there myself.
Try to get an extractor like this and tighten it up real good before turning it. Cheap tool but it sure works.
My thread on this nasty chore...http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/85...t-it-info.html





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Old 07-04-2009, 12:59 PM
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SWEEET! What store do I run to on July 4th to get one???? HEHE. If I only have to drill one stud, I'll be happy!
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hey since I have everyone's and anyone's attention. I don't have a tap for M8 1.25....or a drill bit (17/64ths) to do the job. I do have a 5/16" drill bit and tap...would it be ok to go that over??? Or am I going to have issues?
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Stick with the stock size, I'd say. Much easier.

You're going to want to "chase" the rest of the bolt holes with a tap anyway.
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hey since I have everyone's and anyone's attention. I don't have a tap for M8 1.25....or a drill bit (17/64ths) to do the job. I do have a 5/16" drill bit and tap...would it be ok to go that over??? Or am I going to have issues?
Once you start drilling the stud may loosen up. Or have you already removed it and the threads are ruined?
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Stick with the stock size, I'd say. Much easier.

You're going to want to "chase" the rest of the bolt holes with a tap anyway.
Oh you are tooooo right. Thanks. Now to try and see if I can find a parts store that sells one tap instead of a whole kit....
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Oh you are tooooo right. Thanks. Now to try and see if I can find a parts store that sells one tap instead of a whole kit....
A regular auto parts store usually does. Tool stores, etc, usually do also.
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A regular auto parts store usually does. Tool stores, etc, usually do also.
Alright...got the correct size taps (had to buy a small set of metric). Also got a fresh set of easy-outs. I'm thinking I might try the easy out on the stud sticking out 1"...worth a shot before I go breaking it off at the head and doing it surrounded by aluminum. Of course, if I slip....well....new water jacket in the head, right?
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next dumb question.

How do I know the manifold is straight enough to put back on the head, and not all twisted up like a
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next dumb question.

How do I know the manifold is straight enough to put back on the head, and not all twisted up like a
I use a straight edge square and a feeler gauge but nearly any straight surface will work.
I'm not to picky so anything under .080 is going back on the truck.
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I use a straight edge square and a feeler gauge but nearly any straight surface will work.
I'm not to picky so anything under .080 is going back on the truck.
nice. Thanks. Gives me something to go against. .080 is pretty far out there IMO...but if it seals, makes me happy!
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It depends on what kind of gasket the setup uses. If it's one of those "squishy" gaskets, it can take a lot of warp. If it's a sheet-metal gasket like my '01's were stock, you might want to get them milled.

Either that, or just use some RTV (let it skin over before assembly)
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It depends on what kind of gasket the setup uses. If it's one of those "squishy" gaskets, it can take a lot of warp. If it's a sheet-metal gasket like my '01's were stock, you might want to get them milled.

Either that, or just use some RTV (let it skin over before assembly)
Now ur just getting funny! LOL. That said, I've seen Right Stuff used successfully on headers. D'OH!
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It depends on what kind of gasket the setup uses. If it's one of those "squishy" gaskets, it can take a lot of warp. If it's a sheet-metal gasket like my '01's were stock, you might want to get them milled.

Either that, or just use some RTV (let it skin over before assembly)

The Ford gaskets I just bought for my 99 were different than what I took off. The new metal gaskets appear to have a lot of area to compress. My manifolds had next to nothing for warp.
Longer manifolds usually turn up at the ends so pay attention to that.
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