How do we determine what the "correct" cables are? It sure sounds like using the rigid linkages involves a huge pain in the rear end. What type of shifter would be best? I've heard of the stock shifter from spicer being used, also a floor mount auto tranny shifter and yesterday when I was at the junkyard I saw a shifter from a transfercase and wondered if that could work.
That's great to hear. Is this behind a 7.3 IDI or a gas motor? Obviously behind a ZF5 either way. Where'd you hang it and what did you use for a shifter/shift linkages?
Behind a p-stroke. had to hang the box in front of the carrier brg. crossmember inorder to clear the fwd fuel tank. Front d-shaft is 22 inches-rear shaft is from a E350.
For shifter, I fabed a bracket that uses 2 shift levers from a WWII Jeep. I ran 1/2 inch rods to the tranny. With the two shifters it works great, since there is an interlock in the brownie that prevents any screw-up in shifting.
Only real problem I had was a leak in the input yoke and that was solved with a speedy sleece kit.
Yeah, I can't read the tag....which 5831 is it? What are your plans for it? Sounds like you have a cool fleet? What diesels are in those conversions...the 75 and the Bronco?
I was curious if anyone knows the number for the seals for the shift rails on a 5831? I just got mine up and running and I love it, but I have fliud leaking from the D / OD rail. It is also a little pitted, which I will clean up while I am trying to replace the seal. If I need to, does anyone know where I can get another rail?
Would that be a gasket or a proper seal? A friend of mine on another Ford site just installed a 5831b in his f350. He said the seals and bearings and all are available at just about any auto parts house. I haven't checked for myself yet. He also said the gaskets except for the PTO port gasket are NLA and you just use anaerobic gasket maker there instead. If its a proper seal I'm sure I could get part #s from him for you. I can't be sure but if you have a hard time finding parts you might try Adlemans truck parts in Chicago. At least they still know what the heck these things are, sometimes even have a take out or two laying around.
I was looking for the seals for the shift rails, that would be great if you could ask for the numbers. I hate to ask, but would be too much to ask if I asked for the numbers of all the seals and bearings? I can not find any information on part numbers, and would like to start collecting some of them. If it is too much, then the shift rail seals would be a great start for me.
I PM'ed him, we'll see what I hear back. I'm eagerly waiting to get one of these boxes behind my T18, but I have to sell my Doug Nash box before I can spend the money...
Any old truckers reading this can probably remember the old double over transmissions. These transmissions were generally 13 speed road rangers, usually used by heavy haulers, but, what they would do is change the shifting pattern around so instead of your typical h pattern where you would start out in 1st down to 2nd then up and over to third you would go from 2nd and up and down to third then up to 4th with the same pattern on the high side. It had something to do with swapping gears around because they started with a standard 13 speed. I remember when I used to run back and fourth to Boston with one when I was running 55 mph and I was in 7th OD which left me with 8th direct and OD left, this truck had no problem doing triple digits at 1800 rpm. Just another angle on the subject.
I have yet to hear back from Robert on those part #s. I may soon be in the same boat though. It looks as though I have a buyer for the Doug Nash box, and if so, that money will be parlayed into a brownie box someone is generously sitting on for me. probably reseal the thing before I stick it in the truck but you never can tell I might just roll the dice if it's tight.
You are probably better resealing it first, I rolled the dice, and am leaking out the seals now.....
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well i opened my brownie box the other day after i moved it around, and the thing was completely full of WATER!! i know this isnt what is supposed to be in there.. but there wasent that much rust inside.. so i sprayed it full of pb blaster.. and turned it over by hand.. smooth as silk.. so i got both pto covers off and its air drying, when i get around to installing it im going to run it for a a tank of fuel or so then change the oil again.
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