Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Small Chassis Trucks > Ranger & B-Series
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


Ranger & B-Series All Ford Ranger and Mazda B-Series modelsSPONSORED BY:

Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #46 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 11:37 AM
Marty86 Marty86 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 271
Marty86 is starting off with a positive reputation.
I just spoke with the dealership today. He said my Ranger was within the build dates that had the problem with the transmission. However, it doesn't seem that I have the problem because I really am not experiencing problems. My question to him, was should I go ahead and get the updated valve body seperator plate, or should leave it alone. His thought is wait until I have problems. My thought is do it now so I don't have to worry about it. Thoughts?
Reply With Quote
  #47 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 01:16 PM
CMOS CMOS is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Magnolia, TX
Posts: 1,005
CMOS is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty86
I just spoke with the dealership today. He said my Ranger was within the build dates that had the problem with the transmission. However, it doesn't seem that I have the problem because I really am not experiencing problems. My question to him, was should I go ahead and get the updated valve body seperator plate, or should leave it alone. His thought is wait until I have problems. My thought is do it now so I don't have to worry about it. Thoughts?

Absolutely do it now.


CMOS
__________________
2010 F150 SuperCrew, 2WD 4.6L 3V, 3.31,6-speed tranny, Eaton Tru-Trac carrier, Flowmaster Series 50 SISO

"Faith in Government defies both history and reason."
Reply With Quote
  #48 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 03:52 PM
RCWMTW RCWMTW is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 42
RCWMTW is starting off with a positive reputation.
To Steve (SWOGEE)

<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="100%">I believe I have EXACLTY the same problem as learmoia who posted on 1/15/07 (in another thread?) and Steve (swogee) who posted in this thread and wrote:


"I just read over this thread and I think the problem I am having with my 2001 Ford Ranger may be this "valve body" problem but I wanted to make sure. I have a 2001 Ford Ranger 4x2 with the 4.0 SOHC engine. It has an automatic transmission. The transmission seems to lag in shifting from 1st gear to 2nd gear sometimes. In addition the overdrive light seems to flash randomly. The truck only has 65K miles on it. Does anybody have any ideas what may be causing this? What are the symptoms of the valve body problem? Are there any other parts that may cause these problems?"

I've looked through the repair procedure posted by Ford Boy 52: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...click-here.html and I'm going to proceed with the suggested repair within the next week or 2. I'll post the results when I get a chance.
I have the 2001 Explorer Sport Trac 4x4, 60K or so miles


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Reply With Quote
  #49 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 04:20 PM
gustang818 gustang818 is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 621
gustang818 is starting off with a positive reputation.
About a year ago I posted here about a trans problem and never got any response. http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/49...y-problem.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by gustang818
I have a 2005 Ranger with the 2.3L engine and 5 speed automatic transmission and about 16,000 miles on the odometer. This is my third Ranger but first with an automatic. On occasion when I slow from a higher speed to between 20-30 and then accelerate again (like when coming up to a red stoplight that changes green), the transmission acts like it is in two gears at once. It then "thumps" when whatever it is releases and the truck accelerates normally. Anyone have an idea what causes this and what effect it may have on the tranny's lifespan? I thought it might be something to do with the lock-up torque converter or the tranny actually being in two gears at once.
I took the truck to the dealership and the service manager and I drove around for two hours trying to show him the problem. Of course the trans wouldn't do it and the SM could only say that maybe it was my driving technique.

It is still an intermittent problem occurring under the same conditions. It feels like it is binding when I initially apply the throttle after slowing and sometimes it bangs and other times just thumps when the bind lets loose. This wouldn't have anything to do with the separator plate? I've only got 6000 more miles of warranty left.
Reply With Quote
  #50 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 06:30 PM
RCWMTW RCWMTW is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 42
RCWMTW is starting off with a positive reputation.
I think that is a different problem than the one I'm having. I remember reading somewhere in this thread that the 05 model year was not known for this problem. What I have is a just an RPM increase without a vehicle speed increase that lasts a few seconds then acceleration continues with no bumps or jerks, all very smooth and limited to the 2nd to 3rd gear shift only. Yours almost sounds like what you would see with a bad U joint in a rear wheel drive vehicle, since it sounds like it depends on load, but that's just an un-educated guess. Good luck
Reply With Quote
  #51 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 07:23 PM
Rockledge's Avatar
Rockledge Rockledge is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 9,422
Rockledge is a splendid one to beholdRockledge is a splendid one to beholdRockledge is a splendid one to beholdRockledge is a splendid one to beholdRockledge is a splendid one to beholdRockledge is a splendid one to beholdRockledge is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by RCWMTW
What I have is a just an RPM increase without a vehicle speed increase that lasts a few seconds then acceleration continues with no bumps or jerks, all very smooth and limited to the 2nd to 3rd gear shift only.
That's often referred to as a "2-3 flare" and may or may not be related to the valve body problem. Some people are able to alleviate that condition by adjusting the bands:

4R44E/4R55E 5R44E/5R55E: Single wrap bands.

- Overdrive band = 2.0 turns back.
- Intermediate band (1995-1998) = 2.5 turns back. All other years 2.0 turns back.

The procedure for adjusting the bands is as follows:

Loosen the nut on the adjusting stud while holding the stud in place. Set your torque wrench to 10 ft.-lbs. (120 in.-lbs.), and tighten the stud. When it reaches 10 ft.-lbs. refer to the above specifications to set the proper amount of turns back. Hold the stud in place, and lock the nut to 35-45 ft.-lbs
__________________
'98 Ranger XLT 4x4 (4.0L)
'97 Taurus GL (3.0L Vulcan)
'94 Taurus SHO (MTX)
Ford Pics
Reply With Quote
  #52 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 08:11 PM
cddz cddz is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Newark, Ohio
Posts: 143
cddz is starting off with a positive reputation.
I will try to explain my problem in the greatest detail possible. I have a 97 mazda B4000 Approx 165k miles. I also have the 5R55E. I am not sure if the problems i am currently having with my transmission is due to a blow VBG. At times my tranny does not lockup, tripping P1744 code. I took it to a local transmission shop and he drove it while the problem was accuring. When he came bag from the "test drive" he said call him in a couple of days...... He needed to do some research. I know enough about how a transmission operates to understand why my tranny is shifting hard when it does not get lockup. The tech told me the computer was not telling it to lock up, but why would it trip that code? The pcm has to tell the TCC to engage in order for it to fail the test. But if what he says is true, i would only assume that the computer "thinks" there is a load on the engine, not allowing it to go into lockup. The tranny does go into OD, and it not always has the lockup problem. I tested the stall speed which is close to 2800 rpm, which tells me the clutches and plates are okay. I do not notice any slippage, the motor is strong. Any one out there in Ranger land have any ideas? And is this full line pressure engagment going to hurt the already tired tranny?
Reply With Quote
  #53 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 08:14 PM
RCWMTW RCWMTW is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 42
RCWMTW is starting off with a positive reputation.
Any ideas on how to determine whether the valve body alone is the problem? I've never adjusted bands, I assume that is done with the pan off?
Reply With Quote
  #54 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 08:28 PM
fordboy_52's Avatar
fordboy_52 fordboy_52 is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Abilene Kansas
Posts: 6,428
fordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to behold
both of you need to try reading the rest of this post. i have helped others figure out if it is the gasket

Matt
__________________
Matt - Kansas State University ALUMNI!
2000 f-150 5.4 triton 4x4
Reply With Quote
  #55 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 08:42 PM
RCWMTW RCWMTW is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 42
RCWMTW is starting off with a positive reputation.
RE: First gear engine breaking

<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="100%">From Fordboy 52:

"u should feel it pull the trucks speed down. this is a very good indicator that your valve body is leaking by due to a gasket problem. please list all vehicle info you have"

If I understand this correctly, the absence of, or diminished, engine braking in 1st gear indicates leakage at the valve body gasket, in other words a blown gasket

Correct?

2001 Ford Explorer Sport Trac, 4wd, v6 5 speed OD, manufacture date 3/2000


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Reply With Quote
  #56 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 08:44 PM
fordboy_52's Avatar
fordboy_52 fordboy_52 is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Abilene Kansas
Posts: 6,428
fordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to behold
yes, you are correct.

Matt
__________________
Matt - Kansas State University ALUMNI!
2000 f-150 5.4 triton 4x4
Reply With Quote
  #57 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 08:50 PM
RCWMTW RCWMTW is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 42
RCWMTW is starting off with a positive reputation.
Thanks, mine has virtually no engine braking in 1st with the gear selector in 1, might as well be in neutral
Reply With Quote
  #58 (permalink)  
Old 03-17-2007, 03:35 AM
skook skook is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 8
skook is starting off with a positive reputation.
Talking 4R55E trans shift problems

Ok im a newbie here and i posted my trans problem in the wrong section so i just copy and pasted it here where it can help others on this board ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Hello my first post , Ok i got a 2000 ford ranger reg cab non 4 wheel drive , 3.0 motor , auto trans 4 speed , And my problem is when i take off from a dead stop the first to secound shift hits very hard and late but when i manaualy shift from first to secound it shifts fine , So i took it to amco and they said the problem with these trans is the gasket in between the valve body blows out , And they want $300 just for the tear down , So does this sound right ? Im shure i can handle the job if this is the problem with the valve body but if it deeper in the trans i dont want to mess with it , I was looking at that read me first part of this web site and found the trans gasket part but is that the trans i have or is mine the A4LD ? Or do they all have this same problem , Ok enuff questions for now thanks . And after a few replys and finding out which trans i had , i posted this a few days later

Ok i just got done doing all my repairs and now it shifts just fine , It was not all that hard and saved some money , Here is my total cost , from auto zone $36.52 for brake cleaner & 7 quarts castrol mercon 5 trans fluid ,And from the ford dealer , bord ford in whittier ca, $152.70 , And thats for the trans filter & gasket , And the seperaitor plate and the Valve kit (TSB) Total = $189.22 For anyone else who has the 4R553 auto trans here are the part numbers , The plate with bounded gaskets was = 1L5Z7Z490EA , And the EPC Blow Off Valve kit number is= 3L5Z7M203JA also on the work sheet for this kit it also looks like it fits other auto trans = 4R55E/55E, and 5R44E/5R55E ,And for the trans filter which it says in the valve kit instructions to only use ford trans filter and gasket , And the part numbers are = gasket -F5TZ7A191A , And trans filter -ZL2Z7A098CA Ok i hope this helps others on here as this site helped me I am very thankfull for all the info on this fine site and hope to give back some help when and where i can again THANK YOU .

Reply With Quote
  #59 (permalink)  
Old 03-17-2007, 08:06 AM
RCWMTW RCWMTW is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 42
RCWMTW is starting off with a positive reputation.
Ordered the parts for my 01 Sport Trac with the 2nd to 3rd shift 'flare', should be in Monday but now it quit doing it, shifts normally. Engine breaking still does not happen though. Almost makes me think something elses is going on. Any ideas?
Reply With Quote
  #60 (permalink)  
Old 03-17-2007, 11:10 AM
fordboy_52's Avatar
fordboy_52 fordboy_52 is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Abilene Kansas
Posts: 6,428
fordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to beholdfordboy_52 is a splendid one to behold
nope, mine did the same thing. the day before i fixed it it shifted like nothing was wrong. its still hard on the trans

Matt
__________________
Matt - Kansas State University ALUMNI!
2000 f-150 5.4 triton 4x4
Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2007, 11:10 AM
Reply

Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Small Chassis Trucks > Ranger & B-Series

Tags
5r55, 5r55e, 97, bands, ford, mazda, problems, ranger, replacement, reverse, shift, solenoid, tightening, transmission, truck

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ranger: Technical Information Ken00 Ranger & B-Series 7 03-27-2014 04:16 PM
replaced the valve body gasket no gears now WHI13tan Ranger & B-Series 6 01-27-2013 07:53 AM
1999 ford ranger 5r55e valve body gasket change now have issues cardiacjohn Ranger & B-Series 6 01-20-2013 01:27 PM
A4LD - 4R44E and 4R55E 96_4wdr Aerostar 6 12-13-2012 10:48 AM
Intermittent transmission issues on auto 99 3.0 Ranger 199930ranger Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case 1 12-02-2012 12:45 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup