Its time to can there *** now .. i mean i know FORD's not innocent in no way shape or form . but I think they time has come to start building your own damn diesel now. wake up ford or be left behind
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070226/20070226005535.html?.v=1

 

What did Ford expect to eventually happen? They sued each other numerous times and yet Ford still does business with them?

The few bright spots Ford has in it's line-up is suddenly starting to fade.

 

Considering all the problems Ford has had recently this does not surprise me. They are a dying company, and this is just another nail in the coffin.

Maybe the next owners who buy them out of recievership will care about making a world class product, instead of spending profits on higher pay for incompotent management. Anyone should be a better owner than the Ford family.

 

Since Ford went public in 1956, the common man owns more of Ford than the family does.

Memories are short..especially to the current greedy, self serving management of Navistar. Why? Because, if it wasn't for Ford, there would be no Navistar..PERIOD!!

International Harvester (IHC) went broke in the late 1970's. When no one would help, not the shareholders, not the US Government, not GM...no one, Ford stepped up.

Ford signed a long term contract with IHC which gave Ford the International 6.9 diesel engines for use in E and F250/350's. That saved IHC's butt...pure and simple. Emerging from bankrupcy, IHC became Navistar.

 

So now Ford is in the same boat as Toyota, no diesel pickup in the US market.

Jim

 

What I got out of the article is that Ford is screwing them. Unless I missed something Ford better keep up their end of the bargain no matter what it is. No diesel in the truck line-up would crush them.

 

Wow! that sure puts a crimp in my dream truck that I have been waiting 2 years for. Ordered a 450 Jan 27th, have a build date of 3-12. Wonder how that is going to play out? Would Ford have the motors on hand yet for that build date?

 

you'll get ur truck dont biatch they have an ample supply of engines on hand

 

You sure of that?

 

yea they started building them in Dec. at 400 a day and just stop shipping last thursday.. They couldn't have built that many already according to one news report

 

But wouldn't they already be in trucks out there right now? firehawk's truck isn't even built yet.

 

well they said they had "enough" i dont know if that means a wee,k a month, or a year, nobody knows but with a build date of 3-12 i'd think he'd be okay if not he could get him self a gasser

 

I think it'll all blow over. There's too much at stake here. Somebody's gonna have to cave and pay up. The 6.4 isn't going anywhere.

 

The engineer that I work for got to talk to a gent from Navistar at a diesel engine conference a few weeks ago. The gent sure tlaked alot about the riff with Ford.
Seems like Ford really did not like the way Navistar handled complaints and problems from the field. This gent said the orginal design was robust enough but there were alot of problems with the fuel injection components from supplier Siemmens. Ford and Navistar sent engineers to Siemmens to help in the solving of machining problems with the injectors. Then the supplier for the fuel pressure regulators was having problems and they had to chase that as well.
Navistar had some problems with block castings and some assembly line problems, but did not fix these as quickly as Ford and everyone else wanted.
Of course that led to charges that FORD was spending money to fix a Navistar problem. Navistar had been against some of FORD's suggestions for the fuel system. Supposedly the new 6.4l has the fuel system Ford engineering wanted for the 6.0l. So it goes, and now it is for the lawyers to hammer out.

 

8:06:39 AM ET 3/1/2007

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Engine maker Navistar International Corp. (NAVZ) said Thursday it would resume production of heavy-duty diesel engines for Ford Motor Co. (F) following a judge's order issued in Oakland County, Michigan. A hearing is set for March 7 on the order. issued late Wednesday. Ford will pay for all diesel engines it receives from International Truck and Engine Corp., Navistar's principal operating unit, the company said. Navistar on Monday suspended production of the 6.4-liter Power Stroke diesel engine because of a contract dispute with Ford