2007 head to head Exp El vs Sub.

[chaparro]

Head to Head: 2007 Chevrolet Suburban LT3 4x4 vs. 2007 Ford Expedition Limited EL 4WD 2007 Chevrolet Suburban LT3 4x4 Ford Expedition Limited EL 4WD Powertrain/Chassis Drivetrain layout Front engine, 4WD Front engine, 4WD Engine type 90* V-8, alum block and heads 90* V-8, iron block, aluminum heads Valvetrain OHV, 2 valves/cyl SOHC, 3 valves/cyl Displacement 325.1 cu in/5327cc 330.3 cu in/5414cc Compression ratio 9.9:1 9.8:1 Power (SAE net) 310 hp @ 5200 rpm* 300 hp @ 5000 rpm Torque (SAE net) 335 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm* 365 lb-ft @ 3750 rpm Weight to power 19.0 lb/hp 20.9 lb/hp Transmission 4-speed automatic 6-speed, automatic Axle/final/low ratio 3.73:1/2.61:1/2.72:1 3.73:1/2.57:1/2.64:1 Suspension, front; rear Control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar; solid axle, coil springs, anti-roll bar Control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar Steering ratio 17.8:1 20.0:1 Turns lock-to-lock 3.0 3.2 Brakes, f;r 13.0-in vented disc; 13.5-in vented disc, ABS 13.5-in vented disc; 13.2-in vented disc, ABS Wheels, f;r 17 x 7.5 in, cast aluminum 20 x 8.5 in, cast aluminum Tires, f;r 265/70R17 113S M+S Goodyear Wrangler HP 275/55R20 111H M+SPirelli Scorpion STR Dimensions Wheelbase 1 30.0 in 131.0 in Track, f/r 68.2/67.0 in 67.0/67.2 in Length x width x height 222.4 x 79.1 x 76.8 in 221.3 x 78.8 x 78.3 in Ground clearance 9.2 in 8.7 in Apprch/depart angle 16.7/20.9 deg 24.1/20.9 deg Turning circle 43.0 ft 43.9 ft Curb weight 5877 lb 6270 lb Weight dist, f/r 51/49% 51/49% Towing capacity 8000 lb 8750 lb Seating capacity 8 8 Headroom, f/m/r 41.1/38.5/38.1 in 39.5/39.7/38.0 in Legroom, f/m/r 41.3/39.5/34.9 in 41.1/39.1/37.7 in Shoulder room, f/m/r 65.3/65.2/64.7 in 63.2/63.7/67.1 in Cargo vol behind f/m/r 137.4/90.0/45.8 cu ft 130.8/85.5/42.6 cu ft Test Data Acceleration to mph 0-30 3.0 sec 2.5 sec 0-40 4.4 4.1 0-50 6.3 5.8 0-60 8.9 8.4 0-70 11.5 11.1 0-80 14.4 14.4 0-90 19.4 18.9 Passing, 45-65 mph 5.0 sec 4.7 sec Quarter mile 16.6 sec @ 84.4 mph 16.2 sec @ 84.2 mph Braking, 60-0 mph 138 ft 140 ft 600-ft slalom 55.9 mph avg 54.7 mph avg Lateral acceleration 0.69 g avg 0.69 g avg MT figure eight 30.2 sec @ 0.50 g avg 30.6 sec @ 0.50 g avg Top-gear revs @ 60 mph 1800 rpm 1600 rpm Consumer Info Base price $40,760 $43,395 Price as tested $51,320 $49,685 Stability/traction control Yes/yes Yes/yes Airbags Dual front, f/r curtain Dual front, front side, f/r curtain Basic warranty 3 yrs/36,000 miles 3 yrs/36,000 miles Powertrain warranty 3 yrs/36,000 miles 5 yrs/60,000 miles Roadside assistance 3 yrs/36,000 miles 5 yrs/60,000 miles Fuel capacity 31.5 gal 33.5 gal EPA city/hwy econ 15/20 mpg 14/18 mpg (est) MT fuel economy 15.0 mpg 18.7 mpg Recommended fuel *SAE certified Regular unleaded Regular unleaded

[bg2pres]

The thing for me to make the Ex above the Sub is the third row automatic laydown feature. YOU STILL HAVE TO TAKE THE SEATS OUT OF THE VEHICLE ON THE SUBURBAN. CAN'T BELIEVE IT... Ford got them there..

[i eat hybrids]

The EL owns the new burb. Hands Down

[Mud Doc]

Isn't the 6.0L available in the Suburban? At about 335 hp?

[chaparro]

Originally Posted by Mud Doc

Isn't the 6.0L available in the Suburban? At about 335 hp?

Yes it does and it power is 365 hp. In the Truck Trend magazine they compare the 6.0 sub vs 5.4 Exp. and pulling a 2 ton boat, the subs engine overheat. The gpm were 8.6 the sub and 11.4 the exp. And the exp was faster in flatland and up hill. if you want more inf. log into trucktrend.com and look for 2007 suburban vs expedition.

[NoMo]

Originally Posted by chaparro

Yes it does and it power is 365 hp. In the Truck Trend magazine they compare the 6.0 sub vs 5.4 Exp. and pulling a 2 ton boat, the subs engine overheat. The gpm were 8.6 the sub and 11.4 the exp. And the exp was faster in flatland and up hill. if you want more inf. log into trucktrend.com and look for 2007 suburban vs expedition.

This is the only head-to-head comparison I could find. The Suburban in that comparison had the 5.3L engine. Do you have a link to the article you mention with the 6.0L test?

[kenttrudiw]

It is now on the home page of Truck trend right at the top.

[NoMo]

Thanks!

It's interesting to see how the opinions and measurements changed from one article to the other.

On Edit:
Wonder why the Suburban pictured in their article isn't the one they claim to have tested.

[kenttrudiw]

The good thing is that the Expeditions are getting a lot of write ups in these mags and various web sites.

I believe they are all very positive, the only loss is to the GMC Denali (which cost around $7500 more)

[Mud Doc]

(+$7500 for Denali) I was a little concerned at this cost, but maybe is correct. Trying to use KBB as MSRP listings, EXPY EL would be about $51K, and Denali about $57K. Biggest diff on paper is 380 horsepower.

Also, according to some registrations, Ford is leading GM on newer large SUV sales.

[edgl]

GM has a 100,000 mile warranty now on their 07s.