Ranger & B-SeriesAll Ford Ranger and Mazda B-Series modelsSPONSORED BY:
Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.
You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!
My dad's 01 Ranger 4X4 XLT has some wierd electrical problems. All of a sudden (about 2 weeks ago) the wipers, widows, fog & dome lights, and 4x4 stopped working. I checked all the fuses and made sure the wireing as in tact and everything is clean and fuses are good. I removed the fuse panel and verified all the wires are connected. I even took the wiper connector off the wiper motor off and verified continuity between the 4 or 5 terminals and the battery terminals.
Is there a main relay(s) that could have crapped out? Or what else could be the culprit? Again, all fuses are good (tested every one with multimeter) and in place. Maybe some type of power surge cooked the wiper, window, dome, 4x4 and fog light switches without killing the fuses??? Is this possible? Everything else works, dash, radio, alarm, hi-lo beams, blinkers, locks, etc.
One thing it could be is the GEM module. I seriously doubt that a surge would take out all that stuff without blowing a fuse. Has your dad jump started anybody lately? The GEM module, along with the PCM are sensitive to damage from voltage spikes. Before replacing the GEM module, I would try resetting it. You can do this my disconnecting your negative battery cable,
and touching it to the positive battery cable (negative battery cable is off the negative battery terminal). This will remove power from the GEM module,
and discharge the internal filter capacitors......
1921 Ford Model T
1961 Ford Galaxie
1972 Volvo 1800E
1981 Mercedes 300D
1993 Mercedes 190E 2.6
1999 Ford Ranger 3.0L FFV 2WD
Photo Site: photos
Just called my dad and had him do the test you specified Bob. It didn't change anything. So I should buy another GEM module for him right? Any thoughts on what else it could be just in case the GEM module isn't the problem.
Also, I've never heard of a GEM module and in case the auto parts guy doesn't know what it is either - that does GEM stand for?
Well, you all were right - it was the GEM. Unfortunately, it was the stealership that found it out. They charged my dad $800 for diagnosise and repair. My dad needed the truck and could wait for me to take a look at it and do the repair myself so he took it to the shop on his way to work. He is sorely kicking himself right now. Oh, his truck is back to new again. Thanks anyways.
Dang matt, thats WAY out of line for diagnosis & replacement of the GEM!!!!.
Get your dads reciept & see how many hours they charged to the job. no way should the cost be any where near that imo.
Price a new GEM module, seem to me I've seen prices around $120 & find out what time is allowed for it's installation & their labor rate. Seems to me, something around maybe $200 bucks for the job. would be plenty.
Bet if properly confronted, they'll cut the charges at least in half!!!! If you do it for him, let us know how it goes.
Good to hear it's back to normal though, too bad he was so quick on the draw!!!!
Sounds like my MIL, when she makes up her mind on something, she's gotta have it done NOW!!!!! lol
99 Ranger XLT 4dr 4x2 4.0L 5spd Auto 3.55L/S Payload Pkg2 Tow Pkg
Details are trifles but trifles make perfection & perfection is no trifle
Our signature is a sign of a job completed, autograph your work with excellence
I'm not going to do anything about it. He lives too far away and the stealership he brought it to is even farther.
He already confronted them but they said they needed to charge him a full day's worth of labor claiming that a problem like this takes a whole day of diagnosis. PLUS to add to their BS, they charged him for the labor of 2 guys which they claimed is even higher priced. I have never heard of such stupidity. This is the #1 reason why I fix my own vehicles and never take it to any repair shop. Tires and air conditioning are the only thing handled by a shop.
This is quite ridiculous and I think warrants a letter to the regional service management and a formal complaint about the dealer's practice. They have guidelines / standards on service labor to perform various activities and certainly it does not require 16 mhrs. Maybe someone has access to the data that states the expected labor for this task.
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.