Swap '89 302 into '95 F150
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Swap '89 302 into '95 F150
Hey folks, love this site, it has a wealth of information. I tried to do a search for answers but came up with nothing. Hope someone can help, I'm stumped.
I have a '95 F150 4x4 with mass-air 302 and auto o/d, I bought the truck with no compression in no.1 cylinder. It ran and drove, but had a miss to it. Got it home and pulled the heads to reveal a chunk missing out of the no.1 piston. Not quite as easy of a fix as I hoped.
I found a low mileage Jasper 302 in a '89 F150 2wd that ran good and I drove it home. I pulled the motor out and put new gaskets and oil pump on it. I then installed it into the '95, just the long block though. I re-used the '95 distributer, intakes, exhaust manifolds, and injection. I also put on new plugs, wires, cap & rotor. Seemed simple enough, it was done in a days time, but it wouldn't run in the '95. It had spark, had fuel to the rail, but the injectors weren't squirting. I then swapped them out for the '89 injectors since they appeared the same, and they squirted. Back together it went and fired right up, but it ran very rough. I then checked the timing, it was on. It runs too crappy to drive. It will idle alright, but has a slight miss. As soon as you give it gas, it backfires and stumbles even more. So here it sits and I am stumped.
Will this older 302 not work in this newer truck? The '95 injectors sat for a while so I think that is why they wouldn't work. Should I have them cleaned and checked and put them in? Will the '89 injectors work, so it must be a timing issue? Any help would be appreciated.
I have a '95 F150 4x4 with mass-air 302 and auto o/d, I bought the truck with no compression in no.1 cylinder. It ran and drove, but had a miss to it. Got it home and pulled the heads to reveal a chunk missing out of the no.1 piston. Not quite as easy of a fix as I hoped.
I found a low mileage Jasper 302 in a '89 F150 2wd that ran good and I drove it home. I pulled the motor out and put new gaskets and oil pump on it. I then installed it into the '95, just the long block though. I re-used the '95 distributer, intakes, exhaust manifolds, and injection. I also put on new plugs, wires, cap & rotor. Seemed simple enough, it was done in a days time, but it wouldn't run in the '95. It had spark, had fuel to the rail, but the injectors weren't squirting. I then swapped them out for the '89 injectors since they appeared the same, and they squirted. Back together it went and fired right up, but it ran very rough. I then checked the timing, it was on. It runs too crappy to drive. It will idle alright, but has a slight miss. As soon as you give it gas, it backfires and stumbles even more. So here it sits and I am stumped.
Will this older 302 not work in this newer truck? The '95 injectors sat for a while so I think that is why they wouldn't work. Should I have them cleaned and checked and put them in? Will the '89 injectors work, so it must be a timing issue? Any help would be appreciated.
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The 89 motor uses the early Ford firing order (15426378) Your 95 had a different cam (F4TE roller) with the 13726548 F/O) Wire the distributor cap for the earlier F/O then try it. The 89 will probably run rich too, the F4TE cam is mucho healthier than the 89's cam. The F4TE cam is a step below the GT/HO cam.
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Yea, the injectors I guess are sequential firing and not batch fire, that's probably why it wouldn't run at all. I'm not sure about the workings of the EFI system but I know for a fact the cam firing order is different between an 89 cam and the 94's F4TE roller. If you cannot rewire the injectors only way to go would be a cam swap to a 351W flat tappet or swap the F4TE cam into the 89 block. The 89 block should be a roller block so that's not an issue. The cam swap will be a plus over the 89's grind.
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