Y292 to 350 swap
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Y292 to 350 swap
Just to know if it could be done, can the y-292 in the 60 F-350 be changed with the chev(know you hate it) 350. I understand tranny mod would have to made and some more to be found out about latter, but if I had the motor and a tranny that would hook up can the swap be made and how hard would it be. Just thinking that maybe you have meet someone that has done it before. Just looking at all the options for this truck. Thanks.
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Y292 to 350 swap
Wow! Some of us need to switch to decaf and maybe take a few anger management classes or something. The guy asks a legit tech question and the dogs of war are unleashed. Can't we all get along?
Back to the question. I don't have any experience with trying to put a 350 up to an old Ford tranny, but if you can get through that technical nightmare, putting it all back in the truck would be a snap. There are many crossmembers to support the 350 that are made by vendors all over the US. The easier solution would be to put a TH350 (junk) or TH400 (not junk) in with the 350 cuz it's made to be that way.
My personal preference would be not to mix stuff from one company to another. I'm looking to rebuild my 351C and find a good C6 or go for a totally built up 302 block with either the C6 or AOD Ford hardware.
Back to the question. I don't have any experience with trying to put a 350 up to an old Ford tranny, but if you can get through that technical nightmare, putting it all back in the truck would be a snap. There are many crossmembers to support the 350 that are made by vendors all over the US. The easier solution would be to put a TH350 (junk) or TH400 (not junk) in with the 350 cuz it's made to be that way.
My personal preference would be not to mix stuff from one company to another. I'm looking to rebuild my 351C and find a good C6 or go for a totally built up 302 block with either the C6 or AOD Ford hardware.
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Y292 to 350 swap
Marv- I'm sure it is do-able, but I can't imagine why you would consider it. The chevy 350 is not much of an engine. If you have a chance at a good deal on a buick or pontiac or olds V8s, or a large caddy, they would all be much better than a chevy. I have to believe they would be easier to install in a chev or gmc, though. If you are looking for more modern power, why not the FE series? You would need new motor mounts, but the bell pattern matches what you have now. The FE is considered too old by some, but has lots of goodies available, was used in some ford trucks all the way to '79. Lots of these engines are sitting around, unloved and unclaimed, just waiting for a nice home. A 390 would look period correct in your truck as well. I hope we can talk you out of a very bad original idea. DF
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Y292 to 350 swap
Oooooooooooooooook, now that everyone is ready to hang me with the bow-tie string let me explain. I have a 60 F-350 dualie. I would like to just build up the 292, but no one makes any parts that I can find. My real problem is the gears in the rear. I do not know what gears are in it, but I guess they are set for some pulling. I can't seem to find any gears for just everyday riding. If someone could help with some after products for the 292 I would like to build it. The reason for the 350 was I have a complete drivetrain and engine done and parts are just so common for it. I see in classic truck mag they are starting a art. on tuning up the 292, just thought someone here may know some tricks now so I don't have to wait. Thanks
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Y292 to 350 swap
Now that we're past the initial foot stomping about favorite brands and mixing parts I can tell you that I have a '56 with a 272 and I can get pretty much any parts I need. The 292 isn't much different. There are a fair number of places to pick up parts including Obsolete Ford Parts, Dennis Carpenter, and Joblot Automotive among the few I've worked with. I'm sure other folks on this forum or the y-block site can come up with at least a dozen more. I even got a quote from a local engine shop that would do a very complete rebuild for about $900 to $1000 on my 272 (including parts) if you want to go that route. They said they are doing one or two complete y-block rebuilds a month.
Work with the old boy and I think you'll find it's fairly easy to find 292 parts and places that can do specialized jobs if you need them to. Above all, have fun with the truck and don't let it become a millstone around your neck.
Earl
Work with the old boy and I think you'll find it's fairly easy to find 292 parts and places that can do specialized jobs if you need them to. Above all, have fun with the truck and don't let it become a millstone around your neck.
Earl
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Y292 to 350 swap
I am in southwest Ohio and the local shop is:
Ault and James Engine Rebuilding
1326 Springfield Street
Dayton, Ohio
937-253-8820
I've also talked with:
Vintage Engine Machine Works
North 604 Freya Way
Spokane, WA 99202
U.S.A.
members.aol.com/RAMRemfg/Home/sales11.html
1-800-233-6934
I didn't get an estimate from Vintage since they (wisely) wanted to see the engine before they came up with any costs and it would have cost a bit to send it out to them.
Given that I didn't have to work too hard to find the local shop I suspect your local area has at least one shop that can handle y-block rebuilds without any problems. You might be better off making a few local calls before going to somebody not in your area.
Hope this helps.
Earl
Ault and James Engine Rebuilding
1326 Springfield Street
Dayton, Ohio
937-253-8820
I've also talked with:
Vintage Engine Machine Works
North 604 Freya Way
Spokane, WA 99202
U.S.A.
members.aol.com/RAMRemfg/Home/sales11.html
1-800-233-6934
I didn't get an estimate from Vintage since they (wisely) wanted to see the engine before they came up with any costs and it would have cost a bit to send it out to them.
Given that I didn't have to work too hard to find the local shop I suspect your local area has at least one shop that can handle y-block rebuilds without any problems. You might be better off making a few local calls before going to somebody not in your area.
Hope this helps.
Earl
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Y292 to 350 swap
Overdrive..., overdrive..., sorry I drew a blank on that one; Whoever told me that was "just" OJ was crazy
Overdrive: I have come up with the solution that I believe will work the best for me. Since the 292's are built to be stump-pullers (tons of bottom end), I thought I'd leave my gearing the way it is set up now, to augment that bottom end torque. But, then the problem comes up that I would like this truck to do freeway speed, at least. So; I took a 3+1 o/d tranny out of a '79 F-xxx with a 351M engine in it, and will shortly be swapping the o/d in place of my T-18 (granny 4 spd.). I'll have to modify the bellhousing sleightly, but it looks to work OK. This will probably take place sometime in late Mar., early Apr. when I've got the cab off for floorpans/cabmounts replacements.
PS; it's all going into a '64 F-250, but the bell should be the same for you, so I don't see any problems.
And don't worry guys, I'll definately take a lot of pics and do a tech write-up on this.
Don't scare me saying you're going to put a 3****ty in your nice FORD truck!
-Andrew
f250_64(No Email Addresses In Posts!), same for yahoo messenger
Nothing, and I mean nothing, stirs the soul, saying I'm a bad **** like lettin'em rip with a window shaking, fuel gulpin, carbon monoxide belchin, attention gettin, V-oh my LORD!-8!
Overdrive: I have come up with the solution that I believe will work the best for me. Since the 292's are built to be stump-pullers (tons of bottom end), I thought I'd leave my gearing the way it is set up now, to augment that bottom end torque. But, then the problem comes up that I would like this truck to do freeway speed, at least. So; I took a 3+1 o/d tranny out of a '79 F-xxx with a 351M engine in it, and will shortly be swapping the o/d in place of my T-18 (granny 4 spd.). I'll have to modify the bellhousing sleightly, but it looks to work OK. This will probably take place sometime in late Mar., early Apr. when I've got the cab off for floorpans/cabmounts replacements.
PS; it's all going into a '64 F-250, but the bell should be the same for you, so I don't see any problems.
And don't worry guys, I'll definately take a lot of pics and do a tech write-up on this.
Don't scare me saying you're going to put a 3****ty in your nice FORD truck!
-Andrew
f250_64(No Email Addresses In Posts!), same for yahoo messenger
Nothing, and I mean nothing, stirs the soul, saying I'm a bad **** like lettin'em rip with a window shaking, fuel gulpin, carbon monoxide belchin, attention gettin, V-oh my LORD!-8!
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Y292 to 350 swap
If you want to have the best of both worlds, stay with the FORD product. Try this for size. The FE block is the same as the 390-428. To install it , get a 352 bell housing out of a 61-65 truck. The 352 block is the same as the 390-428 block. It's just been bored and improved. Next get a Clark light duty 5 speed out of a 1 1/2 or 2 ton truck. Everything will "BOLT" right in with no modifications. The stock motor mounts will work!
Fordmann
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