5.4L 3V spark plug change question
#91
I'm still going to do my spark plug changes myself......
I ordered the Ford Rotunda Speciality Tool spark plug remover.....#303-1203.....to have on hand. Just in case I have a plug break off in one of the cylinder heads.
Sucks I have to buy a speciality tool to have on hand just to change spark plugs.
Damn Ford, what were you thinking when you designed these plugs?
I'll be very careful and follow the TSB, but a spark plug change shouldn't be this scary!!!
I'm currently at 37k miles. Spark plug change before I hit 40k. It will be interesting to see if we start reading more and more issues with this in a couple years as more 2004+ trucks start nearing 100k miles and more people start changing their plugs.
Ford does recommend using nickel grade anti seize on the ground shield when reinstalling new plugs...
I ordered the Ford Rotunda Speciality Tool spark plug remover.....#303-1203.....to have on hand. Just in case I have a plug break off in one of the cylinder heads.
Sucks I have to buy a speciality tool to have on hand just to change spark plugs.
Damn Ford, what were you thinking when you designed these plugs?
I'll be very careful and follow the TSB, but a spark plug change shouldn't be this scary!!!
I'm currently at 37k miles. Spark plug change before I hit 40k. It will be interesting to see if we start reading more and more issues with this in a couple years as more 2004+ trucks start nearing 100k miles and more people start changing their plugs.
Ford does recommend using nickel grade anti seize on the ground shield when reinstalling new plugs...
Last edited by DRM2004; 01-05-2007 at 11:10 PM.
#92
Originally Posted by DRM2004
I'm still going to do my spark plug changes myself......
I ordered the Ford Rotunda Speciality Tool spark plug remover.....#303-1203.....to have on hand. Just in case I have a plug break off in one of the cylinder heads
I ordered the Ford Rotunda Speciality Tool spark plug remover.....#303-1203.....to have on hand. Just in case I have a plug break off in one of the cylinder heads
#93
Originally Posted by 04 FX4 Lineman
CMOS: When are you going to do yours, also have heard there is a redesigned plug am sure it is a ford only to get them?????
Lineman,
I just got my SK Tools socket yesterday but have not yet received the plugs so it looks like I'll be doing it next weekend - unless the plugs come today (Saturday). If they come today I'll make it my Sunday project.
Plugs are made by both Motorcraft and Autolite. I suggest using the Motorcraft. They are very easy to find. I ordered mine from 1stFordParts.com. Got them for about $7.99 each - real Motorcraft.
I'll keep y'all posted. Might even take some pics of the process and host them on my web site so I can link them here.
CMOS
#94
Originally Posted by DRM2004
Here is the SK 9/16" spark plug socket:
Here is a scary picture of a broken spark plug 5.4L 3V spark plug. Quess where the ground shield is .......inside the cylinder head! Lesson = BE CAREFUL! or a simple spark plug change could turn into a cylinder head removal. Rotunda spark plug removal tool P/N = 303-1203. Cost is $125.88 straight from Rotunda. 1-800-ROTUNDA. Currently back ordered until Jan16th.
Here is a scary picture of a broken spark plug 5.4L 3V spark plug. Quess where the ground shield is .......inside the cylinder head! Lesson = BE CAREFUL! or a simple spark plug change could turn into a cylinder head removal. Rotunda spark plug removal tool P/N = 303-1203. Cost is $125.88 straight from Rotunda. 1-800-ROTUNDA. Currently back ordered until Jan16th.
It only works if only the ground shield is left in the head.
I'm pretty sure I've broken more of these then anybody else
#95
#96
Originally Posted by CMOS
Guys,
The TSB says to use a nickel based anti-sieze product on the ground electrode shield. Where can I get a nickel based anti-sieze?
Everything I find seems to be all copper based.
CMOS
The TSB says to use a nickel based anti-sieze product on the ground electrode shield. Where can I get a nickel based anti-sieze?
Everything I find seems to be all copper based.
CMOS
Bostik Findley
211 Boston Street
Middleton, MA 01949-2128
ph; 888-603-8558
Don't remember where I got it .... I think someone handed it to me & said "Here .. you might need this some day" (that happens to me a lot)
~Glenn
#97
Permatex has it, have you checked the local auto parts stores? Or do a search for "Nickel anti seize"
Are you going to follow my advice and only loosen them up 1/8th of a turn and let the penetrating oil sit for more then 30 minutes. I know if I was doing my own truck I would let it sit over night.
The TSB states 5-10 minutes because when it was written that was thought to be long enough, that and they want to save money by not paying the dealer tech to wait longer.
Are you going to follow my advice and only loosen them up 1/8th of a turn and let the penetrating oil sit for more then 30 minutes. I know if I was doing my own truck I would let it sit over night.
The TSB states 5-10 minutes because when it was written that was thought to be long enough, that and they want to save money by not paying the dealer tech to wait longer.
#98
#99
Originally Posted by ohboy44
Permatex has it, have you checked the local auto parts stores? Or do a search for "Nickel anti seize"
Are you going to follow my advice and only loosen them up 1/8th of a turn and let the penetrating oil sit for more then 30 minutes? I know if I was doing my own truck I would let it sit over night.
The TSB states 5-10 minutes because when it was written that was thought to be long enough, that and they want to save money by not paying the dealer tech to wait longer.
Are you going to follow my advice and only loosen them up 1/8th of a turn and let the penetrating oil sit for more then 30 minutes? I know if I was doing my own truck I would let it sit over night.
The TSB states 5-10 minutes because when it was written that was thought to be long enough, that and they want to save money by not paying the dealer tech to wait longer.
Yes, I am going to let it sit for at least an hour or two after the fist 1/8 turn. If it would help, I'd pee on them.
CMOS
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#104
Originally Posted by ohboy44
Oh god no, I would say a 2-3 second blast in the hole would be enough. I believe it states to put enough to fill the hole up to the top of the nut part of the spark plug.
I also crank the engine over after removing the plugs to get the oil out of the cylinders.
I also crank the engine over after removing the plugs to get the oil out of the cylinders.
~Glenn
#105
Originally Posted by Glenn07
What will cranking the engine over do to the coils ?
~Glenn
~Glenn
Fire them up!
This sounds a bit dangerous to me. At 50,000 volts+, those coild can arch a spark quite a ways. But - what if there is nothing within the dielectric range for the coils to discharge? Will this damage them?
CMOS