No, it's not going to be a problem for your truck, it is more refined then the low sulphur diesel, which makes it cleaner, it's like the difference between an 87 v. 89 v. 93. 87 being the least refined, 89 being a little better, and of course, 93 being the most refined out of the three. Unfortunately, it is mandated by law that I believe all pumps have to have it in 2010(I could be wrong, but I believe that is date), so you won't have a choice by that time in case you still have that diesel. Hopefully, the kinks would have been worked out by the companies on their new engines and then it would be time to get a new(er) one.
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'06 6.0L Turbo Diesel King Ranch DRW 4.30 Gears
Bunch of goodies that add up to 508hp/721ftlbs
the only thing to beware of is leaks. the new fuel is a great cleaner so any buildup preventing leaks like the ever popular water drain valve, it will wash it away. also keep an eye on your fuel filter and make sure it is ok because of the same reason.
I agree with the other two posters. It will affect older diesels (pre 94 if I remember right). Those will need an additive for lubrication as they was designed for higher sulfur fuel which lubricated the fuel system.
You will notice some loss of fuel economy with the new fuel.
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93 f350 7.3 , 5 speed manual, ext cab, long box 240K+ miles
1967 C700 farm truck
30 ft travel trailer
Vietnam Vet/ OS1 USN/USNR retired 26 years
B5 soydiesel user
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it's like the difference between an 87 v. 89 v. 93. 87 being the least refined, 89 being a little better, and of course, 93 being the most refined out of the three.
I could be wrong, but my understanding has always been that gasoline is "refined" equally and detergent additives and such are present in in adequate amounts across all grades. Octane rating simply is a numerical indicator of a fuel's resistance to ignition. Low octane fuels being easier to ignite for use in low compression engines; and high octane fuels being more difficult to ignite for use in high compression engines. Higher octane ratings are needed in high compresssion ratio engines to prevent detonation (the fuel reigniting elsewhere in the combustion chamber due to the increased compression of the unburnt fuel by the fuel that is already burning having being ignited by the spark plug) and preignition (the fuel ignites itself spontaneously due to the heat of compression before the spark occurs in a high compression ratio engine). Preignition in the shorter term and detonation over the long run are damaging influences in the longevity if the pistons, pins and rods of the engine.
According to everything I have ever read from reputable sources, using expensive high octane fuel in a low compression ratio engine is a flat out waste of money and, in fact, can actually cause performance and economy to suffer. It is one of the most common misconceptions about octane rating out there, and many people are fooled into thinking high octane = high power.
I have not seen a commercial for high octane fuel on tv for quite a while, but I do know that whenever one aired, if you read the fine print, it always said "For engines that are designe to use high octane fuel" or "for engines that can benefit from the use of high octane fuels."
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97 250 PSD Ex Cab Sd 4X4 ZF5 155k
Buncha low budget mods
"I tried being reasonable. I didn't like it."
The new fuel (ULSD) will meet a ASTM lubrication standard, the same one that the prior LSD was required to meet. If you didnt think you needed an additive before, you dont need one now. Many people run an additive anyway because lubricity and wear are inverse of one anouther, meaning you can further decrease your wear on your injectors with more lubricity, although eventually you will see diminishing returns, and where that point is, I dont believe anyone on this board can give you a true answear of that, only what they believe.
We have a 2006 F250 super Duty power stroke Diesel. Bought in March, & since our purchase it seems that the price of Diesel fuel has steadily accelerated but has not come down along with gasoline prices. Can anyone venture an opinion on why?
Laws of supply and demand. We are in the middle of the heating season and that is where the extra diesel (if there is any) is going and we have to bid against that to get motor fuel.
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93 f350 7.3 , 5 speed manual, ext cab, long box 240K+ miles
1967 C700 farm truck
30 ft travel trailer
Vietnam Vet/ OS1 USN/USNR retired 26 years
B5 soydiesel user
Sirius radio
We have a 2006 F250 super Duty power stroke Diesel. Bought in March, & since our purchase it seems that the price of Diesel fuel has steadily accelerated but has not come down along with gasoline prices. Can anyone venture an opinion on why?
Think of how simple the diesel fuel market was in the summer of 2005, the majority was low sulfer #2 dyed and undyed.
Fast forward to late fall, early winter of 2006, what do we need to supply the market? ULSD #1 & #2 both dyed and undyed, low sulfer #1 & #2 dyed and undyed, heating season, tank, transporters & pipeline concerns so we keep the ULSD from being degraded to low sulfer fuel, all of this squeezes the supply system.
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2004 E-450 6.0 147,000 miles
7,500 mile, 15 quart oil changes, 5W-40 Rotella.
UOAs consist of checking for metal on drain plug magnet. All stock, no mods. Dyed fuel with no additives. Never been reflashed.
Total parts replaced;
one EGR valve, one turbo.
ckal704, you are correct about octane differences in gasoline. All grades are refined to the same quality, but the higher octanes require more additives to prevent pre-detonation. More additives = higher cost of gasoline. It's not a performance enhancer.
As far as leaks go, yes switching to ULSD can cause leaks. The reason is the removal of aromatics in the new fuel. The aromatics cause the o-rings to swell. Over long periods of time, the o-rings have "adjusted" to the fuel, so switching to ULSD causes the o-rings to shrink slightly. The weak points on the 7.3L are the fuel bowl drain o-rings. It seems to be a problem with older and/or higher mileage PSD's, so chances are you will be ok.
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2002 F-250 PSD
Best time: 15.3 @ 86.8 MPH at Bandimere - 9/10/08
I just ran my first tank of ULSD through my old 6.9, and it seems to be fine. I did end up plugging my filtrs, so I guess it may be like running ethanol after having run standard gasoline for so long, fuel deposits get cleared out, and filters start to plug... I made it 100 miles before it started to show trouble, and the filters have been on for since last spring, but I don't run a lot of miles, only about 30,000 in the two years I have had the truck...
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the other workhorse 92 F350 2wd crew cab, 4.10 rear axle, 92 6bt Cummins, NV4500 with Gear Vendors overdrive
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Soy Diesel is being blended to meet the new LSD standards in alot of the Diesel markets. The problems that came with switching to Soy Diesel were blamed on the fuel and everyone assumed it was just like fry oil. Now that it is included in the mandated ULS fuel, people have payed attention to the "acts like a system cleaner which will plug filters.
It is not Soy Diesel that plugs the filters it is what has been flushed out of the pipelines, holding tanks, fuel transports, station tanks, fuel barrels on the farm, and your trucks tank.
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'03 F250 SD Toredor Red over Arizona Beige - Crewcab, Short box, 4x4, 6 Liter Power Stroke, 5 - speed Torqueshift, SPA dual gauge (Boost over Pyrometer), Predator, B&W flip-over ball
the only thing to beware of is leaks. the new fuel is a great cleaner so any buildup preventing leaks like the ever popular water drain valve, it will wash it away. also keep an eye on your fuel filter and make sure it is ok because of the same reason.
Last night I put the new ultra low sulphur diesel fuel in my 97 250 7.3L for the first time. After about 20 miles the fuel filter light started coming on every time I accelerated quickly.
I have been running ULSD fuel for the past 60 days or more with zero problems. I drive about 2,000 miles a month and even search out the ULSD pumps... and driveability has NOT been a problem. No idea on fuel filters as it is not time to change (plus it is too cold)... but no loss of fuel economy or power!!
However, I do add a double dose of Powerservice's anti-gel additive to every tank 100% of the time year round... but I did that even when using the older LSD fuel.
From now to 2010, you will only see ULSD fuel and in some areas... it will change tomorrow and stay that way. It produces less soot and carbon which is better for our EGR valves, Turbos, CAT's and mufflers... so this is why I search out ULSD fuel even though it is not mandated for my '03 truck.
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