Nothing like a almost 2 year old thread to stir things up.

Full moon tonight?

 

As we have discussed before, I owned a 1969 Courgar that had a 427 side oiler, hydraulic cammed engine in it. 390 hp. It looked stock from the factory. Was it? I don't know, because I purchased it used. It had all the factory emblems etc. etc. Was it a one off car? I don't know. All's I know is I had one and i owned it, and wrecked it. If I knew then what I hear now, I would have kept the car. If it was a one off car, then it would be worth a bunch wrecked or not.

 

The 427 SOHC was called the "90 day wonder" or the "Cammer" and was never sold in a car because NASCAR outlawed them before they could be placed in production. This is what drove Ford to develop the 429 Boss, they wanted a Hemi killer so they ended up building thier own hemi, the 429 Boss. I've only seen one "Cammer" in my life. It was in a 67 Fairlane and he had neat little fender bagdes that looked factory that said "427" on them. Don't mean the car came that way from the facotry. The engine bay was stuffed and it seems he had to do some cutting on the shock towers to get it to fit. No room for power steering either. The car was ungoddly fast, probably in the 600 hp range. The engine cost 13K bare block and he had over 30K in the build. One of the coolest Fords I have ever ridden in.

 

Oh, by the way...Mercury did put the 427 in the Cougar for one year. That car would be worth a load of money right about now.

 

68 Mercury Cougar GTE of which 357 got the hyd cammed 390hp 427. 37 got the 428CJ making a total of 394 for 68 production.

 

Not to pee on anyones charcoal but earlier this year the speed channel did a big block comparision on the basis that early muscle engines were underrated for insurance purposes. The test included Fords 427(not the SOHC), Chevys 409 and 427, one of the Pontiac BB's, and the 426 Hemi. Advertised HP for Fords 427 was 425, as tested was more like 525-530HP! Now for the bad news: Hemi advertised 425HP, as tested was over 800HP!!! No BS calls on me either! they dyno'd all the engines the same as they were sold!

 

Actually you might want to check backlash of that little "big block comparison" the guy that did it was cheating as it turns out to make the hemi look better he used a whole bunch of aftermarket parts. The whole show was shown to be a farce. As it turned out he upped the compression, did major head work and the cam was no where near stock specs on the Hemi

Here scroll down about 2/3rds to the section called American Muscle Car for just one of them and remember this little bit ws from that guy that actualy did it and justified it saying it was just enternanment and don't tell the ford and chevy guys we cheated.

SPEED Channel Summary

 

Someone obviously has a better memory than I. Thanks I stand humbly corrected. I still think anything over 700 HP is pretty impressive without some means of forced induction but thats besides the point, the tables were skewed.

 

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Here scroll down about 2/3rds to the section called American Muscle Car for just one of them and remember this little bit ws from that guy that actualy did it and justified it saying it was just enternanment and don't tell the ford and chevy guys we cheated.

SPEED Channel Summary[/quote]


Thanks for posting that. So IF I ever watch anything on the Speed Channel, I will assume it's crap. A 500 inch motor to start with...plus all the other stuff. And then to say it's a 'back in the day' comparison.. If I want fiction, I'll watch fiction. I guess if I want lies, I'll watch Speed Channel.

 

Many years ago, I had a girl friend that I talked into buying a 426 hemi cuda. My 1966 427 Ford Fairlane GT would out run it. The Fairlane came with a 390 engine, of which I replaced it with the 427.
The 427 was rated at 390 horsepower, so that Hemi had less power.

 

monster, yes, you are correct. I checked into ordering a Galaxie with a SOHC 427 in 65 and 66. I even went to several different dealers thinking the last one might have had his infomation wrong, but it was over the counter only only is what I was told in '66. By 67 they had phased out the 427/425 in Galaxies, so Im sure the SOHC wasnt avabile then, either.

 

For everyone's info, Don the "Snake" Prudohme? ran the 427 "cammer" motor in his top fuel rail in the late sixties and early seventies. The car was a beast.

 

Hate to pee on your charcoal, the hemi never produced 800 stock, advertised or actual horsepower, no matter what some dyno says, if it would have, that means it had 300 horsepower more than the competition, and there would be no close race, and in the 60's, if Ford and GM couldn't belt the Hemi, they sure made it a race, and gave it a run for its money. Like a poster before me said, the guy who did the dynos, machined the hemi heads, put on after-market parts to beef up the engine, because he was partial to hemis, he wanted it to slay the 427 and 454 blocks. Now, if the hemi cars from 1966-1971 produced 800 horsepower, the cars would have to be modified from hell to be able to handle that kind of juice, and they weren't, the hemi cars would have been able to go past the 180 mph mark , and stock they were never quite that fast. The dyno tests were bs.

 

That whole test was revealed as a sham. The testers admitted to hopping up the Hemi but none of the others. So it was not a test but a showcase for a hopped up Hemi.

 

Gotta love those fairlanes, nice cars. I heard that the Ford 427 was very hard to beat, that's why its my favorite engine, period, that and becuase I love Fords so much. I've alway loved
researching the Ford Big Blocks, it's pretty fun stuff.