shifter stuck - Page 2

captchas · #16 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006, 09:35 AM

sorry guys

but the above user's back me up here. the strain placed on the park pall which is really only to back up the parking brake. gets jambed into a 6 inch round gear with some very course deep teeth to hold a moveing pall that is 3/8ths of inch thick and about 2 &1/2 inches long to hold all the weight of the truck . that is what jambs.

HomerWinzlow · #17 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006, 12:37 PM

Yes it does a lot for a small device, but I think the orginal OP has a problem with the brake switch or the shift lock actuator since it has happened several times on level surface. Even with a pawl locked down you can pull it out 99.999 percent of the time. The newer trucks have a whole different shift lock and columb assembly and they use a 5 or 6 pin brake lamp switch too. You can have brake lights working fine but the shift lock circuit be screwed up. Ive replace quite a few of these newer style brake lamp switches for various faults due to it having so many separate circuits served off one switch.

HYDAFL · #18 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006, 12:39 PM

I dont think this has any thing to do with the tranny. I believe it is in the column. if i ever find out i will let you guys know. .thanks for all the tips

captchas · #19 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006, 04:23 PM

no it's not the colume it's one of the above any thing from a fuse, stop switch to a jambed pawl.
only time i saw a problem in the cloume a cast pot metial part had broken and the truck had to be towed in.

from your desription you had the pawl jambed in the gear on the tail shaft. just as a try it, next time this happens try rocking the truck just a little bit while moveing the lever. if it comes right out you know you need to set the parking brake.

HYDAFL · #20 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006, 05:44 PM

I could understand if its the pawl jambed if i was parked on any sort of an incline.But both times were on smooth flat payvment. Which fuse are you guys talking about? For it to shift you have to depress the brake rite? Could it be there in the brake area?

captchas · #21 (**permalink**) 12-18-2006, 08:16 AM

it's on the fuse box. sorry i don't remember the number to help you. yes i have had the pawls jamb on a flat also. just we have so many things that cause problems now that we never had to deal with before.
i would still get in the habit of setting the brake for my own safety.

ITDave · #22 (**permalink**) 03-11-2007, 11:46 PM

What ended up being the real problem / resolution to this? I have the problem now...

I had to take the console cover off per book instructions and depress the manual override to get it out of park. I would rather fix this my self if it is an easy fix as I cannot really afford to take it to the dealer right now. Please advise.

My brake lights work, however, I have seen that this can still be a fuse or a blown stop lamp circuit when this happens?

Thank you.

Dave Hobley
Dave@Hobley.com
253-486-9818

HomerWinzlow · #23 (**permalink**) 03-12-2007, 05:49 AM

If you have the floor shifter then you may have a bad shift lock actuator. Ive had to replace a bunch of them on the floor shift models. Most of them have had the opposite problem however, as they will NOT lock and the cruise stops working because it interferes with the deactivation circuit.
Since you have a multicircuit brake lamp switch you need to check each pin for 12V with the brake applied first. If one has a substantial voltage drop then you need to replace the switch first.
Ive also seen some of the floor shift lever assemblies get jammed up inside at the flap and you have to replace the whole lever assembly. There is a TSB on that for the Explorers which use a similar shifter. They are mostly plastic crap these days.

ITDave · #24 (**permalink**) 03-12-2007, 11:53 AM

Thanks for the information. Where exactly is that switch located? That is probably the problem.

At least, I would think that is likely the problem as when you push the manual override button, white button next to the shifter, it disengages and shifts out of park fine and all other gears shift fine using the button on the shifter.

Thanks for the information.

Dave

HomerWinzlow · #25 (**permalink**) 03-12-2007, 01:06 PM

The switch is mounted on the the brake pedal assembly. It has a 5 or 6 pin connector plugged into it.

ITDave · #26 (**permalink**) 03-12-2007, 01:17 PM

Thanks, I looked at the brake pedal and didnt see that. Will look again tonight.

Thanks again!

Dave

HomerWinzlow · #27 (**permalink**) 03-12-2007, 01:27 PM

Here is a quick pic of mine. You see the yellow cap over the retainer clip and the black switch with a black (some are brown) connector.

ITDave · #28 (**permalink**) 03-12-2007, 10:45 PM

Thank you! Had just found that before getting on the internet this evening. That was very nice of you to take a picture! Thank you for that. That is some great resolution!

So, I pulled the plug out (was plugged in firmly), inspected the connector and pins, and then plugged it back in with no change.

Is there something under the yellow cap that I should be looking at?

Thanks again,

Dave

ITDave · #29 (**permalink**) 03-12-2007, 10:54 PM

Thanks again for the info. I just noticed the link about your beautiful daughter. I am so sorry to hear that! I hope and pray that she comes home soon, just walks right through your door. Best wishes to you and yours, our thoughts and prayers are with you!

Dave, Kimberly, Sierra and Jessica Hobley

ITDave · #30 (**permalink**) 03-12-2007, 10:56 PM

I was looking at that switch, and saw this post on one of my other postings; "Something I noticed was that even if your brake switch is activating the brake lights, it’s a different switch inside of it that’s running the shift interlock and it may not be functioning."

I am wondering how hard this is to replace?

Thanks,

Dave

Any idea what a fair price will be for the dealer to troubleshoot or replace that switch. I have already part of the legwork, checked all related and some other fuses, etc. Pulled the console cover off, etc.

Thanks again!