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Old 10-25-2006, 01:38 PM
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With the ethanol future prices dropping from 4 to about 2.1 currently over the last 4 months, what are you all seeing at your local gas station for E85?
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Here in NE Wisconsin it is under $2/gallon.
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:43 PM
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I'd be happy just to see some at all...I live in the state of the Hippie (Washington)
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$1.76 in central TX
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I just filled up an hour ago for $1.78
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I'd be happy just to see some at all...I live in the state of the Hippie (Washington)
And I have absolutely ZERO idea why I can't buy it in Seattle. You'd think ultra-liberal Seattle and King County would be falling all over themselves for alternative fuels - if only to **** off the Bushies.
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:45 AM
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they're only hippies when it looks good. I'll bet it would be waaay to much effort to get some over here.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:58 PM
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And I have absolutely ZERO idea why I can't buy it in Seattle. You'd think ultra-liberal Seattle and King County would be falling all over themselves for alternative fuels - if only to **** off the Bushies.
Actually, they tried an alternative fuel (CNG and/or LNG) and it didn't work out too well. Several buses (U-district routes, in particular) were using it, and the conclusion at that time (several years ago, before the big jump in price) was that when everything was added together it was significantly more expensive than diesel, and with the arrival of some of the very clean burning diesel engines, the environmental advantage wasn't that much either.

As for E85, transportation should be one big issue, tax is probably the other one. I'm almost certain that the govt is losing money on E85, and with no corn growers' lobby or major ethanol plant nearby, there's not much reason to have it here. Pissing up someone just for the sake of it is often silly, especially when *you* have to pay for it. And BTW, WA doesn't have income tax, and I consider that quite conservative financially. (and good ) Lastly, they have their hands full with other things, so they could care less about Seattle having E85 or not.

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E85 was $1.839 in Hudson, Iowa last time I was down there a couple days ago.

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Really? No income tax in Washington? Huh. I did not know that. So do they raise up other taxes, like sales and property taxes to make up for it?
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Really? No income tax in Washington? Huh. I did not know that. So do they raise up other taxes, like sales and property taxes to make up for it?
Such things can only be dreamed of in NJ.

Revenue Dept of Washington State, Business Tax Overview

STATE INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAXES

To keep it on ethanol: I tried emailing my crongressional candidates to find out what their plan was for NJ to get biofuels, since we don't have any major carbohydrate crop in proportion to the number of cars on the road. I have yet to get an answer, even if the nation goes oil independent, this state will still be a net importer. I don't think we have a station here yet. Maybe we can ransom the Jets/Giants until NY supplies us.

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my town, Silverdale, has a 8.75% sales tax and property taxes are through the roof. they really don't have the money to manage most things, so alot of the state is run-down
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Yeah it's pretty much the same way in Renton. Washington pays for things with property taxes.
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Yeah it's pretty much the same way in Renton. Washington pays for things with property taxes.
Actually, your state revenue comes from your sales taxes. You should probably blame your county for the rest of your property tax.

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Obviously, WA is a good state for people earning big bucks, but not everyone fall into that category. As a matter of fact, probably the majority end up being on losing, but they appear to be quite satisfied with a status quo, anyhow. BTW, food has no sales tax on it. And to get back close to the topic, the tax on gasoline (and consumable ethanol ) is rather high.
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