Shoulder Belts - 1964 F100
#16
Shoulder Belts - 1964 F100
Harvey. I'm not ready to put the belts in yet, but when I do, I will post some photos of the installation on the Slick 60's website.
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/fordpickups61to66fseries
If you or any other members of FTE are interested, I'll let you know when I get the installation done so you can see the finished product. As I said, I'm using c&*vy van floor mounted retractable 3-point belts.
Let me know if you want to see the pictures.
Skip4274
4everFord
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/fordpickups61to66fseries
If you or any other members of FTE are interested, I'll let you know when I get the installation done so you can see the finished product. As I said, I'm using c&*vy van floor mounted retractable 3-point belts.
Let me know if you want to see the pictures.
Skip4274
4everFord
#19
my intention has been to one day swap to an integrated in to the seat seat-belt (of course i need to research their safety record) (assuming my wife and kid will ever be in the vehicle), thoughts being some type of really comfortable seat with a fold up middle arm rest for third rider and a lap belt for it.
im also considering integrating some type of roll bar or additional structural tubing in to the cab at some point prior to any custom interior going in (of course all this would be way in the future, if ever).
another safety factor to be aware of, while on the subject are both windows and head rests in the seat (or lack of head rests). I was once rear ended by a little old lady while in my dakota pick up, my headrests were down and it did a good number at a slow speed of smacking my head in to the rear window.
i have no idea if the steering wheel is of the fold away or possibly chest puncture type, let alone no air bags....nor do i know if the windows are of the safety type.
research seems to show that safety windows came out sooner than one would think, but thats not something id stand by.
then there is the giant can of gas and fumes behind our back to consider, understanding it could be in worse places (straddling the frame apparently didnt work out well for some models of truck), id still preference that it be located somewhere other then in the cab.
Basically, as long as im driving it alone for the most part, stock is fine with me. But if my wife or daughter are to ever drive it regularly: my opinion is that a lot of changes need be made, from drum brakes, straight axle, no seat belt, windows (?), steering wheel, no head rests, gas tank location, consideration for technology of cab support or crush areas (or lack of technology) back when it was produced, on and on....
im also considering integrating some type of roll bar or additional structural tubing in to the cab at some point prior to any custom interior going in (of course all this would be way in the future, if ever).
another safety factor to be aware of, while on the subject are both windows and head rests in the seat (or lack of head rests). I was once rear ended by a little old lady while in my dakota pick up, my headrests were down and it did a good number at a slow speed of smacking my head in to the rear window.
i have no idea if the steering wheel is of the fold away or possibly chest puncture type, let alone no air bags....nor do i know if the windows are of the safety type.
research seems to show that safety windows came out sooner than one would think, but thats not something id stand by.
then there is the giant can of gas and fumes behind our back to consider, understanding it could be in worse places (straddling the frame apparently didnt work out well for some models of truck), id still preference that it be located somewhere other then in the cab.
Basically, as long as im driving it alone for the most part, stock is fine with me. But if my wife or daughter are to ever drive it regularly: my opinion is that a lot of changes need be made, from drum brakes, straight axle, no seat belt, windows (?), steering wheel, no head rests, gas tank location, consideration for technology of cab support or crush areas (or lack of technology) back when it was produced, on and on....
#20
Shoulder straps offered as an option for 1967/76 F100/350's & 1977 F250 4WD's (High Boys). Shoulder belts became standard equipment in 1977 (except High Boys).
1967/76, 1977 High Boys. The shoulder straps were separate from the lap belts. There are rubber plugs in the upper R/L corners of the cab that once removed, the upper section of the straps bolt to.
With optional shoulder straps .. the lap belts contained two buckles, one for the tongue of the shoulder strap, t'other for the tongue of the lap belt.
1967/76, 1977 High Boys. The shoulder straps were separate from the lap belts. There are rubber plugs in the upper R/L corners of the cab that once removed, the upper section of the straps bolt to.
With optional shoulder straps .. the lap belts contained two buckles, one for the tongue of the shoulder strap, t'other for the tongue of the lap belt.
#21
#22
Retro Belt makes a nice product. You would still have to do the design and fab work to make it fit the truck. I have used their belts in several Mustangs.
#23
Wow, dug up a 12 year old post. Information and concerns still apply I guess.
As I was reading through these posts, it appeared as the responses were getting ready for head on collusions doing 100 plus mph.
I have shoulder belts in my truck, but with low back mustang seats and a custom steering wheel, there might not be a need for seat belts. I think people ought to learn to drive first, then be taught how to be a defensive driver. I'm always looking for a way out in case of problem, but with 4000 lbs of American steel surrounding me the most damage will be to the other cars.
I did not build my truck to fear the "What if's"
If you fear for your safety, get a new truck with safety airbags all around, and park the classic.
As I was reading through these posts, it appeared as the responses were getting ready for head on collusions doing 100 plus mph.
I have shoulder belts in my truck, but with low back mustang seats and a custom steering wheel, there might not be a need for seat belts. I think people ought to learn to drive first, then be taught how to be a defensive driver. I'm always looking for a way out in case of problem, but with 4000 lbs of American steel surrounding me the most damage will be to the other cars.
I did not build my truck to fear the "What if's"
If you fear for your safety, get a new truck with safety airbags all around, and park the classic.
#24
Sometimes we make decisions that are bad ones and so do others driving around us. If we can avoid some injuries or death by a little planning and fabrication, how bad can that be? The dashboard and especially the steering wheel are very accident unfriendly in these old trucks. If we can make some attempt to keep our faces off of them in even a 30mph crash, it was probably worth the effort. Plus, my 9 year old son will be riding with me. I want him to have the old truck experience, but would also like him to be able to remember it looking back.
#25
Here's one way to install the shoulder portion.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/950478-need-advice-on-3-point-seat-belt.html
#26
In January 1963, over a year before the Mustang made its public appearance, Mr. R. C. Lunn, a Ford engineer, delivered a technical paper to the Society of Automotive Engineers on the subject of an experimental model of the Mustang, which was being displayed in various parts of the country. ...They showed a glimpse of what the industry could do in the elementary stages of safety design. [These were] a “fail-safe” dual braking system, integrated headrests to prevent or minimise neck and spinal injuries, a roll-bar to strengthen the roof structure in the event of roll-overs, a steering column preventing rearward displacement into the driver during a front-end collision, a collapsible steering shaft, provision for shoulder harness and lap belts, strongly anchored seats, and bucket seats with lateral holding power. In the production model Mustang, which was introduced in April, 1964 (and of which nearly half a million were sold in twelve months), every one of these features had been eliminated. "
I guess it's not just you going into the wheel but the wheel coming into you.
After driving a 80,000 lb 48 ft flatbed with steel and lumber all over the country for a few years I'm pretty confident your 4 k sheet metal old truck doesn't mean much. Turns out embankments, trees, and drunks always win.
Defensive driving is good but it takes a mix of offensive as well. Most people think they can drive but only drive from a to b everyday. Unless you've spent a significant amount of time in a rig or on a motorcycle or both you really don't have the perspective people should be required to have before getting a license.
Anyway, there's my . 2 and a quote from some web site.
I guess it's not just you going into the wheel but the wheel coming into you.
After driving a 80,000 lb 48 ft flatbed with steel and lumber all over the country for a few years I'm pretty confident your 4 k sheet metal old truck doesn't mean much. Turns out embankments, trees, and drunks always win.
Defensive driving is good but it takes a mix of offensive as well. Most people think they can drive but only drive from a to b everyday. Unless you've spent a significant amount of time in a rig or on a motorcycle or both you really don't have the perspective people should be required to have before getting a license.
Anyway, there's my . 2 and a quote from some web site.
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