Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Misc. > Alternative Fuels, Hybrids & Mileage
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
belldawg's Avatar
belldawg belldawg is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 60
belldawg is starting off with a positive reputation.
Propane?

Does anyone in here run propane on their trucks? I have a 77 F150 with a new 400 in it. Well it has about 30k on it now. Ive been thinking about running propane in it. Right now I can get the kit for under $1500 and propane is only about $1.55 per gallon. Ive heard that it will get about the same mpg and usually gain power, unless you are towing. I know that I will have to replace my exhaust valves so they dont burn out but any advice positive or negative would be appreciated. I spent alot of money restoring my truck and I think this would be a great benefit but if someone thinks I'm retarded let me know.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-06-2006, 03:31 PM
Socketman Socketman is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Whitehorse Yukon
Posts: 98
Socketman is starting off with a positive reputation.
Running propane here. Call me crazy but ive had it on my trucks since about 1986 and i love it. It was really cheap back then ,usually about 9 cents a litre. im paying 85 cents now.

The benefits
Fewer oil changes
fewer tuneups ( got over 60k miles to set up plugs)changed them on principle
Engine lasts longer , provided you have hard seats. (customer with 500k on a shortblock did the heads a couple times)


Sad but true, some performance will be lost as will fuel mileage but the price still makes up for it imho.

Tanks are quite large and have limited capacity and are heavy (just added a second tank and it added 150lbs) with gas you carry say 20 gallons which weighs around 120lbs but the weight goes down as you burn gas wher with propane the fuel is lighter but the tanks weight stays with you.
If you dont carry a camper an in box tank can be used for large capacity but they weigh 300lbs plus.

i wont tell anyone else whether or not they should run propane but it works for me

Last edited by Socketman; 09-06-2006 at 03:34 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-06-2006, 03:41 PM
belldawg's Avatar
belldawg belldawg is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 60
belldawg is starting off with a positive reputation.
Does anyone else besided gotpropane.com sell propane kits?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-06-2006, 04:12 PM
Torque1st's Avatar
Torque1st Torque1st is offline
Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,260
Torque1st is a splendid one to beholdTorque1st is a splendid one to beholdTorque1st is a splendid one to beholdTorque1st is a splendid one to beholdTorque1st is a splendid one to beholdTorque1st is a splendid one to beholdTorque1st is a splendid one to beholdTorque1st is a splendid one to behold
Lots of info in this forum on propane etc.
__________________
"Beam me up Scotty. There's no intelligent life down here..."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-08-2006, 04:28 PM
1978Crew 1978Crew is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 293
1978Crew is starting off with a positive reputation.
try propaneguy.com
__________________
1978 F250 2WD Crew Cab 351M/ C6 - SOLD
1999 F250 2WD CC LWB 7.3L 4R100: Door Ajar light Fixed, Power Locks Fixed, Rotella T6 Synthetic, Fuel Bowl Seal Kit
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-09-2006, 12:54 PM
pud pud is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Quesnel, BC, Canada
Posts: 1,948
pud is starting off with a positive reputation.
propane cool factor: 104 octane, half the cost of gasoline.
Here in Canada its easy to find propane during the day. In the middle of the night its a little harder, as its not a self serve product. There are plenty of stations that carry the stuff, even in little one-horse, one-hoe hick-towns there is usually a station with a huge propane filling station. From what I hear thats different in the states.

Im shooting you a PM with a link to a propane specific forum, its pretty slow there and fairly new....but there are a couple guys who really know their stuff. One of the guys posts here as "fraso" I believe.
__________________
1987 muteg GT T-Tops
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-17-2006, 03:28 AM
darrin1999 darrin1999 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: fargo, nd
Posts: 1,524
darrin1999 is starting off with a positive reputation.
my truck will be run on propane- its going to be a 545 ci 12-1 compression hydraulic roller retrofit 460 stroker in a 1978 f250 4x4. i think not only is it cool that my truck's engine will last for the rest of my life, but also that itll put out plenty of power
anyways, the only way to run propane really efficiently is to raise the compression ratio- otherwise your mileage will suffer and your power will be down slightly... if you had built the engine for propane to begin with like i am with my 545 youd be getting alot more power and about the same mileage
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-17-2006, 03:38 AM
darrin1999 darrin1999 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: fargo, nd
Posts: 1,524
darrin1999 is starting off with a positive reputation.
im hoping for 8mpg but ill probably be looking at more like 6... 5 in town... i just want it to be able to keep up with my 302 powered maverick

Last edited by darrin1999; 10-17-2006 at 03:40 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-17-2006, 12:15 PM
furball69's Avatar
furball69 furball69 is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 2,628
furball69 has a very good reputation on FTE.furball69 has a very good reputation on FTE.furball69 has a very good reputation on FTE.
8mpg is reasonable, I think I was getting 8-9 in my f350/460 CC with a slide in camper... on the highway anyway.
__________________
"It's not the votes that count, it's who counts the votes"

I can't outrun bullets, but I might outrun an *alien* with an empty gun.

My fuel economy calculators
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-18-2006, 08:04 AM
darrin1999 darrin1999 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: fargo, nd
Posts: 1,524
darrin1999 is starting off with a positive reputation.
i would be disappointed if i only got 4 mpg like monsterbaby's race truck, but then i definitely wouldnt be pushing my truck nearly as hard as he does his, but mine will also have a few more cubes and be in a heavier truck
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-18-2006, 09:07 PM
jonnybronco jonnybronco is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 54
jonnybronco is new and has a neutral reputation at this point.
I am currently working on a 429 built for propane. I am not looking for huge horsepower, but rather good low end torque and economy. I am planning on around 11:1 static compression with an RV type cam. From what I have read you want to keep the dynamic compression around 10:1. There is a lot of information on the web and there are a lot of pros and cons associated with dedicated propane fuels, you just need to decide if it is worth it to you.

Jonny
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-19-2006, 04:03 AM
darrin1999 darrin1999 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: fargo, nd
Posts: 1,524
darrin1999 is starting off with a positive reputation.
actually from what ive read the dynamic compression is more like 9.5-9.6 to 1 for propane... mine will be about 9.6 to 1 dynamic and about 12 to 1 static compression, also unlike gas- propane runs cooler when its run lean
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-19-2006, 10:03 AM
belldawg's Avatar
belldawg belldawg is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 60
belldawg is starting off with a positive reputation.
What are you going to/already using for mixer-carb. I like the techno carb but I think its kinda spendy. I was thinking about just using the OhG-450 and if thats not enough then run duals.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-19-2006, 11:38 AM
jimandmandy jimandmandy is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Running Springs CA
Posts: 5,228
jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.
All engines run cooler when PROPERLY leaned. Why whould any hydrocarbon fuel be different in a spark-ignition four-cycle engine?

Many aircraft engines have EGT and CHT probes for each individual cylinder and a manual mixture control. That way you can plainly see that lean actually runs cool, WAY rich runs coolest, but slightly rich is actually the hottest.

Jim
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-19-2006, 09:07 PM
furball69's Avatar
furball69 furball69 is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 2,628
furball69 has a very good reputation on FTE.furball69 has a very good reputation on FTE.furball69 has a very good reputation on FTE.
Too lean also burns holes in pistons and valves. Better to be a little too rich than too lean.
__________________
"It's not the votes that count, it's who counts the votes"

I can't outrun bullets, but I might outrun an *alien* with an empty gun.

My fuel economy calculators
Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2006, 09:07 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Propane Conversion on my Edge - 6 month report PaulsEdge Alternative Fuels, Hybrids & Mileage 5 05-04-2014 09:57 AM
propane conversion. TaborCT 1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 15 09-03-2011 08:04 AM
Propane Curious FordTrucksKickGM Alternative Fuels, Hybrids & Mileage 6 09-06-2007 10:21 PM
Propane + Super Chip = 96ford4x4turbodiesel Bio-diesel, Propane & Alternative Diesel Engine Fuels 27 03-10-2004 02:05 AM
Propane 97psd Bio-diesel, Propane & Alternative Diesel Engine Fuels 4 04-16-2001 01:57 PM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Misc. > Alternative Fuels, Hybrids & Mileage

Tags
carb, compression, dynamic, mixer, propane, techno

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


Participate In The Forums

Create new posts and participate in discussions. It's free!

Sign Up »





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup