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Old 08-26-2006, 04:37 AM
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Here i'll start another rumor that i heard.I was told that ford is going to start building a f100 with a v6 diesel in it and it was going to be the v6 that cummins is coming out with.Just another thought.
NO,NO,NO!!!!
the new ford diesel is going to be called the F-175 HD.
and it is going to be getting an all new lightweight magnesium V7 engine made by an all new engine manufacturer.
this new engine will be made by a combined effort of the best minds from cat, cummins, detroit allison, international/navistar, volvo/mack, and mercedes.

in the V7 configuration, it will be in a class by it's self, and not be prone to the weird harmonics that are inherent to the inline odd cylinder engines due to its "V" design.

power specifications are going to be in the 500hp range, with 1,000ftlbs of torque, and it is going to be a sequential quad turbo design.

trans will be the new allison 9 speed triple overdrive automatic.

fuel consumption is targeted to be in the in the 75-90 mpg range.

top speed will be 66 mph, this way the owners will never have to worry about getting a speeding ticket on the freeway.

there are a few more specifications for the new F175 like cargo capacity, max tow capacity, and body style, but they are still closely guarded secrets i have not heard of yet.

but i can tell you all the rest is true.

it has to be. i read about it on the INTERNET.
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:20 PM
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Check this out. Also read in Muscle Mustang and fast fords about the 4.4L diesel. I think you'll see it in the F150 long before a navigator soley for more towing capacity.


http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/1209
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ive heard they were going to originally use the 4.5 v-6 but now im hearing it will be a 4.4L v-8 diesel in the f-150
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Check this out. Also read in Muscle Mustang and fast fords about the 4.4L diesel. I think you'll see it in the F150 long before a navigator soley for more towing capacity.


http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/1209
glad im not the only one that heard this. i think it was also in an issue of diesel power mag, petersons 4wheel, and maybe even motortrend. although, those all being part of the primedia automotive magazine group, you cant really say that "it must be true since a couple different mags reported the rumor". that does seem like the better choice though.
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:10 AM
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F150 long before a navigator soley for more towing capacity.
is it just me or does this scare anyone else?
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:57 PM
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I recieved a product anouncement from ford about 2 months ago in reguards to the new 2007 expedition and expedition EL or was it XL, either way the suburban sized expy. In the anouncement there was a build your 2007 expy program that you could configure a new 2007 just the way you would want to order it. I went the program and there was a diesel option. Now when I got to the end and read the summary of the build sheet the diesel was not priced because it stated it as a future planned option allong with the backup camera as part of the NAV system. I build as a long versioon and a short version it showed up on both option list as future planned option.
I just checked that e-mail again and now that the 07's are up on the regular ford site, that option in not there now, or even mention of it as a future option. I hope they do cary on with there future planned baby psd, my X has always been a little overkill 95% of time, but got better milage than any of my friends expys ever got. So a extended length expy with a baby psd would be right up my alley.
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Old 08-28-2006, 06:22 PM
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I love deisel's so any new ford deisel is a good idea, can't wait for the new 6.4 If it's good like I think it will be I will get me a 09 or 10. Then turn my 96 f350 s/c 4x4 5 speed 4:10 ls ps into a flat bed work truck, trade my wife's 03 focus svt in on a new mustang svt cause they don't make them anymore even thought seem's like a good fit now day's with the good mileage. Still don't know why they stoped making them. Did you know there going to stop making the town car. Ford is trying to kill my dream's. Oh well i'm not old yet. I just hope they never stop making f350's and deisel fuel prices stabilize.
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I do think it would hurt 250 sales
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I do think it would hurt 250 sales
Thats true, but if in the next 2-3 years the F-150 is the only 1/2 ton WITHOUT a diesel option, Ford will be hurting a lot more than just 250 sales. I've read toyota/nissan are shooting for a diesel by 09, GM/Isuzu is working on a "baby" duramax, and Cummins with their smaller v-6/v-8 diesels; Ford HAS to have a F-150 diesel, and the sooner the better.
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If I was gonna bet on half ton diesels...I would bet they won't appear until 2010 MY...just in time for the new, again, 2010 diesel emissions mandates.

But, that's just me.
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I saw this and thought it would pertain to this topic. GM is saying that it has a new diesel that produces 330 HP and 520 LB torque and it also achieves the 2010 emission standards. They also state that the engine is made by GM, not Isuzu like the D-MAX and it was developed for small to mid-size SUV's like the Buick Ranier. It is a very interesting read. The address is http://www.dieselforecast.com/Articl...?articleID=304
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I really do not see having a 5 to 7 gallon urea tank for emissions aftertreatment that lasts for an oil change interval as a practical solution to the emissions problem, as GM says in that article.

Sure, if you got EVERY oil change at the dealer it might work, but you can't require people to get their oil changes at the dealer.

The people who want to do their own oil changes would have to have some place to buy urea from.

Guess what. Concentrated urea is a toxic and dangerous chemical. It's hazardous to ship, store, and clean up any incidental spills. It is downright NASTY.

Not only that, it is a good source of nitrogen. Nitrogen rich compounds are very good for making bombs. Remember the fertilizer bomb at Oklahoma city? Urea has the potential to make much bigger and efficient booms than fertilizer.

I don't see the Homeland Security people allowing NAPA to sell 5 gallon jugs of urea.
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:51 AM
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sign me up F150 diesel

Sign me up, I would love to have the ride of the F150 along with the pulling power, reliability, and fuel economy of a small diesel, I dont need the payload of my F350 but wanted the diesel.. Oh ya, also the quite cab of the F150..
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Old 09-04-2006, 02:15 PM
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i dont know about everyone else but i have a 2006 f250 5.4 and even if i was in the market for a diesel i would still want a larger truck than a 1/2 ton...i dont even need the payload i have now all i need is the 8 ft bed and ext cab but i just like the larger truck...that is one reason i dont like chevy or dodge trucks...i saw a dodge 1500 hemi yesterday and had the larger mirrors and it was quad cab and looked identicle to my friends 2500 and same with chevy they are very similiar...for those who like the smaller truck but want for towing power that is wonderful but there will still be people like myself who want a larger more beafier truck and the 150 just doesnt cut it in that category...dont get me wrong its a great looking truck but the looks of a 3/4 and 1 ton is much meaner!
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I really do not see having a 5 to 7 gallon urea tank for emissions aftertreatment that lasts for an oil change interval as a practical solution to the emissions problem, as GM says in that article.

Sure, if you got EVERY oil change at the dealer it might work, but you can't require people to get their oil changes at the dealer.

The people who want to do their own oil changes would have to have some place to buy urea from.

Guess what. Concentrated urea is a toxic and dangerous chemical. It's hazardous to ship, store, and clean up any incidental spills. It is downright NASTY.

Not only that, it is a good source of nitrogen. Nitrogen rich compounds are very good for making bombs. Remember the fertilizer bomb at Oklahoma city? Urea has the potential to make much bigger and efficient booms than fertilizer.

I don't see the Homeland Security people allowing NAPA to sell 5 gallon jugs of urea.
We use urea around here to grow crops. Yep, it's nitrogen......
Any one can buy it from the farm store.
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is it just me or does this scare anyone else?
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