Biodiesel Fuel

B52BUFF7.3 · #1 (**permalink**) 07-11-2006, 10:55 PM

Is It Safe To Use The Biodiesel B-100 In The 2002 F-350 Powerstroke ? Currently I Am Using B-20 Biodiesel, Works Just Fine. Thanx For Any Input !

electrk · #2 (**permalink**) 07-12-2006, 06:39 AM

Its ok to run the b-100 if the temps outside are warm enough, but as it gets cooler you'll need a tank heater to keep the stuff from thickening up. Also if you have been running regular dino diesel for a long time you may run into some filter clogging issues as the b-100 will "wash" down the sludge on the walls of your fuel tank, how long have you been running the b-20 for? This may have already cleaned up your tank some.

B52BUFF7.3 · #3 (**permalink**) 07-12-2006, 09:42 PM

Thanx For The Input. I've Used B-100 Straight For About 4 Months. No Problems Whatsoever. Than Switched To B-20 Just To See The Mpg --- It Is The Same. I Did Replace The Fuel Filter After Two Full Tanks. I Was Using B-100 In The Winter Time Mixing It With The Regular Diesel 50/50. The Temp. Was As Low As -20 F Here In Denver Area ---no Jelling, No Stalling, No Tank Heater, No Problem At All. The Truck Smokes About 50 % Less With This Mixture. I'm Sure The Engine Likes The Lubrication Of This Fuel As Well As The Use Of The Schaeffer's Supreme 7000 15w40 Oil --- What A Stuff !!!!!!! Can Not Be More Happy Than This.

electrk · #4 (**permalink**) 07-13-2006, 07:56 AM

That sounds great. I can only get the b-100 if I drive about 80-90 miles away and I don't have a storage tank yet, but I will soon I hope. I have been running b-20 for about 6 months and I have been recording about 2-3 miles per gallon better than the dino diesel alone, also after one long trip out of the area I had to run some regular diesel and when I got the b-20 back in I could hear the difference in my engine right away, actually it was my wife who mentioned it first.
I can get the b-20 closer to my home (30 miles) so I try to make it a regular trip.

cyrus · #5 (**permalink**) 07-13-2006, 11:40 AM

At least you guys can get it, no one I know of around here offers it unless you have a bussiness with a corperate fueling plan at one of the commercial fueling stations. Friends of our family own a Farm Services Company, they are producing and running B-100 in there own trucks, but can only sell B-20, but they like the commercial stations need to have a commercial fueling account. Something about the road tax in Michigan.

I did talk him into one full tank of the 100, The engine did seem to like the fuel better than the petro based stuff. Quieter, and better average milage (up by .8 MPG on the HW).

IB Tim · #6 (**permalink**) 07-13-2006, 02:47 PM

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harleydiesel · #7 (**permalink**) 07-28-2006, 04:44 PM

I have a 06 psd with very few miles but cannot locate b-100 anywhere close. Thought about making it myself but when I research I feel I need a chemistry degree has anyone on here tried making it themselves. thank Matt

twjull · #8 (**permalink**) 07-28-2006, 11:25 PM

I have been running B-100 for almost a year in Arizona in my 2002 F250 PSD. I started using it at 85K miles and now have 100k. After the second full tank fill the truck expelled one huge cloud of black smoke while excellerating onto the freeway and that was it. It was like it cleared the build up out of the injecters or whereever and now The engine runs a lot quieter and smoother and I have had no negative effects on the truck. It's also nice to know you are cutting down on emmisions and help the brown cloud. Here in AZ it averages about $0.20 a gallon more than petroleum diesel but it's worth it for the environment!

ryaneverk2 · #9 (**permalink**) 07-29-2006, 01:23 AM

Hi guys, I've moved the thread to the Biodiesel section. The guys and gals here know everything there is to know about biodiesel, wvo, and other fuels.

bigredtruckmi · #10 (**permalink**) 07-29-2006, 08:00 PM

Harleydiesel, unless you have 100K on the truck. FYI - Ford's position is B5 max. For what reason I don't know, but warranty could be voided.

twjull · #11 (**permalink**) 07-29-2006, 10:40 PM

Could it be because Ford is taking orders from Oil Companies???? Hate to spread conspiracy theories but!!!!

1997F-350 · #12 (**permalink**) 07-29-2006, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyrus

At least you guys can get it, no one I know of around here offers it unless you have a bussiness with a corperate fueling plan at one of the commercial fueling stations. Friends of our family own a Farm Services Company, they are producing and running B-100 in there own trucks, but can only sell B-20, but they like the commercial stations need to have a commercial fueling account. Something about the road tax in Michigan.

I did talk him into one full tank of the 100, The engine did seem to like the fuel better than the petro based stuff. Quieter, and better average milage (up by .8 MPG on the HW).

you can get an account. i have one at a cfn. there is cfn all over the west coast. probably similar there. look into it you may be suprised.

bigredtruckmi · #13 (**permalink**) 07-30-2006, 06:36 AM

I just read that they are concerned about cold weather operability, fuel tank liner separation and that there is NO fuel specification for B20 but there is for B100. Go figure - If there is specs for both fuels then why can't you blend them?

twjull · #14 (**permalink**) 07-30-2006, 09:46 AM

B20 is a blend of 20% bio with 80% petrolieum deisel. Blending B20 and B100 is possible but it would be redundant to do so!

B52BUFF7.3 · #15 (**permalink**) 07-30-2006, 11:26 AM

Come Colder Weather The Mixing Of B100 With The Regular Diesel As 60% Of B 100 & 40% Of Petroleum #2 Diesel Is Something That I Was Doing Last Winter To Prevent Jelling. Did That For The 5 Months 0r So - No Problem Whatsoever. Than Switched To B 100 Straight For The Summer - Exhaust Smells Like The "french Fry". One Thing That Really Hurts Is The $ 3.27 Per Gal.{ Ouch} For The B 100. Although The $ 3.18 For The #2 Diesel Is Not To Far From That Either.