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Old 06-19-2006, 07:05 PM
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hey guys,
i have been reading on here and was wondering if anybody has made there own Biodiesel maker from like 55/20 or even 5 gallon drums?
i think im going to make a kit from a 20 gallon barrel and a 5 gallon and use an old sprayer pump,garden hose{or any kind of hose} and water valves.
so do you think it can be done effectivly?
if you can give me any help pics advice and other things to use i would appricate it!
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hey guys,
i have been reading on here and was wondering if anybody has made there own Biodiesel maker from like 55/20 or even 5 gallon drums?
i think im going to make a kit from a 20 gallon barrel and a 5 gallon and use an old sprayer pump,garden hose{or any kind of hose} and water valves.
so do you think it can be done effectivly?
if you can give me any help pics advice and other things to use i would appricate it!
Mitch
Look here first: http://www.biodieselcommunity.org Look under "appleseed processer" for plans to build that style of processer.

If your looking for something different try my gallery, I use a "open" style processer. You can see how mine works by reading my past posts in the biodiesel forum. And ask lots of questions here, we're here to share ideas, and help each other out.

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Do you have to heat the oil?
i was hoping not but why and do u have to use a hot water heater?
i wanted to keep my first modle simple. just wanted to take a 15 gal drum put a valve on the bottom and pour all of the stuff in the top. take samples add what i need to add stir it and drain the nasty stuff out of the bottom without heating it. will this work?
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Do you have to heat the oil?
i was hoping not but why and do u have to use a hot water heater?
i wanted to keep my first modle simple. just wanted to take a 15 gal drum put a valve on the bottom and pour all of the stuff in the top. take samples add what i need to add stir it and drain the nasty stuff out of the bottom without heating it. will this work?
thanks for the post FMD
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Not quite that simple Mitch, The oil has to be heated to 140-150 deg F in order to react, and it has to be mixed for a min of 30min to 2 hrs.

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We all know that Fabman is the goto guy. We all are trying to be a little like him.
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wow that is hot. what can i use to get it that hot? i was wathing a episode on trucks about bio and he didnt heat it.
so any ways does it have to stay that temp the whole time i mix it or do i just need to get it to that temp, ad the methanul and lye and mix it as it cools?
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Mitch -

Most of the questions you're asking will be answered in the tutorials on the biodieselcommunity website. Really great place for learning and also for pulling together ideas about what works (and what doesn't!). I used the appleseed processor as a model for my bioD converter. Great instructions, grat drawings, great people!
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Mitch,

There might be a co-op in your area you could join.

Just google biodiesel co-op.
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I would suggest that website fabman put up, it's actually the one I read first to get the basics and the ideas. It will tell you how it's made, how to make a kitchen bio batch to learn on and has plans for the applesead type, then if you have questions we can really answer them alot better once you have the basic understandings of what happens and why, and I feel that website does a pretty good job of explaining that stuff.
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Hey monster, more stuff under the valve covers broke. Just great huh, along with the cps again....arrrhhhh BANG, SPLATTER, GOUSH, PHYYYT.....Instead of Blow, squeez, what ever he types. lol
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wow that is hot. what can i use to get it that hot? i was wathing a episode on trucks about bio and he didnt heat it.
The Guy on the TV show was dealing with virgin oil and a very small batch.
When you start using WVO and running 30 - 50 gal batches heat just makes it run smoother: helps particles settle out, helps eliminate water contamination, speeds reaction time and reduces the amount oe reagents needed, etc, etc, etc.
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Actually, he collected wasteoil and made it, but the processor was a premade unit. The unit had heaters in it, it is necessary to get the proper reaction.
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so in that set up that i seen on trucks, did it have like a little heater inside fof the plastic barrel? if so how much are then and where can i get somthing like this?
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This is the unit featured on that show: http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/home/home.asp I may be wrong, but it appears it does not have any heating element from their statements... however, the oil must be above 70degrees F by their own statements, so at times, that will mean heating.
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