Thinking about makeing bio diesel
#16
Originally Posted by Futuresweets-10
So either of them will work the same and give you the same end result with the fuel? Where can I find KOH, what sources should I check? How much does KOH cost compaired to NaOH? what is red devil, KOH, or NaOH? thanks
I use 25 gal WVO/ 5 gal Methanol/ 3lbs KOH per batch.
FABMANDELUX.
#17
Originally Posted by fabmandelux
KOH is a little more $$ than NaOH, and you have to use slightly more, but the results are much better, and using KOH produces much less soap than NaOH. Check local chemical suppliers for either KOH or NaOH.
I use 25 gal WVO/ 5 gal Methanol/ 3lbs KOH per batch.
FABMANDELUX.
I use 25 gal WVO/ 5 gal Methanol/ 3lbs KOH per batch.
FABMANDELUX.
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#22
Originally Posted by Futuresweets-10
How much would 3lbs of KOH probably cost? And if I cant find it local would I be able to buy it off the net?
Your best bet is to find a local supplier.
Most Large cities have chemical suppliers that will be glad to sell it to you. My supplier sells not only KOH but also Methanol.
FABMANDELUX.
Last edited by fabmandelux; 06-04-2006 at 03:27 PM.
#23
Originally Posted by fabmandelux
My cost is $.96 per pound in 55 lb bags. You can buy off the web, but it is more $$$$$$$$$$$
Your best bet is to find a local supplier.
Most Large cities have chemical suppliers that will be glad to sell it to you. My supplier sells not only KOH but also Methanol.
FABMANDELUX.
Your best bet is to find a local supplier.
Most Large cities have chemical suppliers that will be glad to sell it to you. My supplier sells not only KOH but also Methanol.
FABMANDELUX.
#24
Originally Posted by Futuresweets-10
What kind of suppliers do you use? Are the specificlly chemical suppliers? or places that sell other things? When I look in the yellow pages or search the net for "chemical suppliers" I get results for alot of "chemical and paper" suppliers. I would assume that most of their chemicals would be cleaning supplies. Hmmm.
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#26
Originally Posted by Futuresweets-10
Hmm, Still no results, and I live about 45min from New Orleans. I even tried searching for one there and didnt find one. You would think that a city that big would have something.
#2, Deep South Chemical: 504-523-8913
#3, Gulf Engineering Co INC: 504-733-4868
#4, Snee Chemical Co : 504-734-7633
#5, X-Chem Inc : 504-733-5818
FABMANDELUX.
#27
Originally Posted by fabmandelux
I found 5 for ya, #1, Al-Con Chemical:504-945-8530
#2, Deep South Chemical: 504-523-8913
#3, Gulf Engineering Co INC: 504-733-4868
#4, Snee Chemical Co : 504-734-7633
#5, X-Chem Inc : 504-733-5818
FABMANDELUX.
#2, Deep South Chemical: 504-523-8913
#3, Gulf Engineering Co INC: 504-733-4868
#4, Snee Chemical Co : 504-734-7633
#5, X-Chem Inc : 504-733-5818
FABMANDELUX.
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#30
Originally Posted by fabmandelux
Great news Dave! Congrats! Are you going to wash in your processer? Be aware that if you do, the leftover "washwater" in your processer may contaminate your next batch. Not a good thing............At my last demo in Baker City everyone was amazed at the color changes that happens when you get a complete reaction. Good luck, and keep us informed on your progress.
Also, try heating to 145-150 deg F. If you only heat to 130 it takes longer to react, and putting in room temp Methoxide will lower the reaction temp further.
FABMANDELUX.
Also, try heating to 145-150 deg F. If you only heat to 130 it takes longer to react, and putting in room temp Methoxide will lower the reaction temp further.
FABMANDELUX.
I've learned a couple of things this weekend. First, I need a 1500 watt heating element. The 1250 I'm using gets the oil to about 125 and then just sorta peters out. I like the idea of being able to heat the oil a bit more before starting the reaction. I'm also going to insulate all the exposed metal pipes. I'll leave my plastic return line untouched so that I can monitor what's going on.
Second thing I learned is that when you're told to add the bioD to the washer 'slowly', then you need to add the stuff SLOWLY. Like a trickle. A SLOW trickle. You add it too fast, you end up with an emulsion (think mayonaise). Then you get to wait for a couple of days while the emulsion separates back out. So much for time-saving shortcuts. Well, it's been an interesting weekend and it looks like it's gonna be an interesting week! I hope to start my second batch Wednesday afternoon. That'll give me 50 gallons of B100 - just about enough to fill my truck!