6.4L Power Stroke Diesel Engine fitted to 2008 - 2010 F250, F350 and F450 pickup trucks and F350 + Cab Chassis

What kind of HP/ft-lbs does the 6.4L spec at??

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Old 07-11-2006, 05:37 PM
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It is termed 'dual turbos' or more specifically ' sequential turbos'. Twin turbos implies identical turbos which they are not.
 

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Sequential turbos...not twin turbos. One feeding the other.
 
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Ford well be on top for 2008 setting the bar yet again!
 
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Read in a boating magazine where they were gettin 425 horses and almost a 1000 ft.lbs. of torque out of an electronic 5.9 cummins. I guess no emissions for a marine application.
 
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Originally Posted by Customz
All it takes is a 5 minute download. Ford can make any amount of power they want with these things
ahh, but how can they keep the egt from melting everything pulling a 15k trailer up an 8% grade with the drivers foot on the floorboard?
 
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Originally Posted by mattsf250
ahh, but how can they keep the egt from melting everything pulling a 15k trailer up an 8% grade with the drivers foot on the floorboard?
Good point
 
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ahh, but how can they keep the egt from melting everything pulling a 15k trailer up an 8% grade with the drivers foot on the floorboard?
I would think the engineers could put a sensor in prior to the turbo so it would back off the power when 1300 or 1350 degrees was reached. A factory EGT gauge would also be nice, maybe with a warning light like on a racing oil pressure gauge to warn when the EGT gets excessive.

Maybe too much info for the average Diesel owner though.
 
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I am amazed at how many apparently didn't bother to read the 14 page presentation from International on the new 6.4L PowerStroke. Here is page 11 of the 14 page document.:

Engine
Highlights

6.4L Power Stroke Diesel

• 350HP and 650 lbs.ft.
• Two turbochargers in series,
one fixed low pressure turbo
feeding a variable turbine high pressure turbo
• High Pressure Common Rail
(HPCR) Injection System with
multi-shot capability
• 10,000 mile oil drain interval
• 20,000 mile fuel filter change
interval
oil drain was 7,500 for 6.0L
fuel filter was 15,000 for 6.0L

from page 3:

• Improved Turbocharger System
– Dual turbocharger, one using EVRT®
– Improved transient response for increased performance feel
– Ability to maintain power at high elevations
• Improved Fuel Injection System
– High-pressure common rail featuring the Piezo Actuation Technology
– Quicker response for better acceleration
 
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ExcursionPSD
I am amazed at how many apparently didn't bother to read the 14 page presentation from International on the new 6.4L PowerStroke.
I would suspect that most of those that saw the link read it in it's entirety. The problem is it is pretty dated material. While it is very interesting information it likely has been taken as general in scope.

The info is approx. 1.5 years old and many changes could have occurred since then...so I wouldn't take anything to the bank on this except basic hard design criteria. Sequential Turbo's etc....

Example: it will be interesting to see if Ford subscribes to things like the 10,000 mile oil change.
 
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wow, so its a smaller turbo feeding the bigger turbo, but the bigger turbo is still a VVT? if im thinking right, then we could see HUGE increases from aftermarket tuners. the only reason i can come up with for them keeping the bigger turbo VVT is so it can make 350hp and 650lb-ft torque at see level, and then keep making 350/650 at high altitude by changing the vanes on the VVT so it produces more boost since the air isnt as dense. does that make sense at all?
 
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Originally Posted by Aussie Pete
You ^$@#%^& I just got the issue of Diesel Power with the snow ploughs. Talk about behind.....
Now would probably be a good time to order a plow if you want to be in the snow removal business come first snow fall.
 
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Oh, I get it, you were being punny, cause you're Aussie... nevermind.
 
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Everything sounds great... also sounds like alot of things that can go wrong.. will have to wait and see before making my choice in '08.
 
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Originally Posted by pstrang
Where's your source?

Before I purchased by truck, I did the study in 2004/5 and here are the results (I haven't researched 2006 numbers). Source: HyperPac dyno charts for auto trannies and 3.73 rear ends (stock numbers), except the cummings was from Edge Products dyno charts for the 5.9L 600 series CTD (stock).

Claimed Dyno %
gm 310/565 236/413 76%/73%
ford 325/570 296/473 91%/83%
dge 325/610 260/430 80%/70% (source Edge Products 600 series)

This helped me make my decision. Ford is all over the others. GM has the biggest loss!
the GM numbers seem rather low, as in most cases I have seen, a stock duramax LB7 normally runs 250rwhp which is about 80%. That is with stock sized tires. If it had 265's or 285's (bigger than stock) it would rob hp and not look as good on the dino. hense the about 80% of the hp goes to the rear wheels. Every newer stock 6.6 6.0 or 5.9 HO cummins truck I have seen dino is about 250-260 the only truck that really shines is the new LBZ max.

Food for thought.................. all of the new diesels can be chipped/tuned to make big hp. What would really make ford shine was if the tranny could actually hold up reliably to a tune that makes 500rwhp.
 
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Old 08-23-2006, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by duramaximizer
Food for thought.................. all of the new diesels can be chipped/tuned to make big hp. What would really make ford shine was if the tranny could actually hold up reliably to a tune that makes 500rwhp.
True. My understanding is the torqueshift holds up the best as stock trannies go. The Allison, well, isn't really an Allison, but another GM tranny with Allison namesake and heritage. It even defuels IN gear, not just while shifting. The Mopar one is certainly the weakest.

No matter how you look at it, 500rwhp would need an aftermarket tranny for any of the big three.
 


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