2007 Ford Aerostar, what would it look like
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Kan! Are you desighner? When will it be shown on motor shows????
As I can see, you try to save old image of aero, but use round fog lamps, like on Mustang. May be I'm wrong, But I would use square fogs...
I guess it would be a good idea to save old image, like Mercedes did it with Gelentwagen of previous generation (2001-2005).
It is time to solve some specific aeros problem. The first step - to add some room under the hood. I may allow to use V8 ore R6 engines. And mechanics and owners would not hate worh on it!
As I can see, you try to save old image of aero, but use round fog lamps, like on Mustang. May be I'm wrong, But I would use square fogs...
I guess it would be a good idea to save old image, like Mercedes did it with Gelentwagen of previous generation (2001-2005).
It is time to solve some specific aeros problem. The first step - to add some room under the hood. I may allow to use V8 ore R6 engines. And mechanics and owners would not hate worh on it!
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Originally Posted by khantyranitar
I have been working on a project, and would be pleased to get feedabck from fellow Aerofans. Let me know what you think of this so far.
I LIKE IT! Picture the new Aerostar with a "mini" Super Duty grille area ( as per your pic. Khanty... Yes, with the front hood area stretched out, with the engine outward a little more. Have you seen the new Chevy mini-van? GM did this, and it makes this van not only look better, but it must be easier to work on? Saw a brand new one in a driveway early Friday evening while walking my dog, Max, and I liked the overall look of this minivan,
For the rear, I can see the rear hatch area mimick the front, with a similar appearence to our current Aerostars. A LED Taillight system is a must, with bright, clear, immediate on brake lights. Same with a flashing amber turn-signal, with halogen quartz white back-up lamps. Several models now are returning to RWD, Ford has a golden opportunity to build a modern day Aerostar, with a Cargo van model. Ford will sell a boatload of them, with a 15" wheel, possibly a 16" lightweight alloy wheel option. Forget 18"-20" wheels with skinny sidewalls. You feel every bump and dip and road noise no matter what kind of shock package you have. Those skinny sidewalls, must be stiff to support the weight of the vehicle. Nothing makes me laugh more than reading a new car, SUV, review, and a "Con" issue is: "Harsh ride, Road noise" and the car is all "round rim" and no sidewalls on the tires? Or you see that, and then: "Not good on snow or ice"... I wonder why, and for $33K+ ? Please...
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Khanty,
I think we're finding a collective sigh of relief for an engine compartment that's easier to work in. As I was crawling around under my van yesterday, I couldn't help but notice that there were lots of space under the floor at various pockets. So I was thinking that if the fuel tank was placed more symmetrically, you might be able to make more under-floor storage, or seats that drop into the floor like other models.
Keeping it in the mini-van class, I would not make it too much bigger or longer than it already is. There are full sized vans that meet those requirements.
I don't suppose you also have a CFD program that you can put your models through? I would really like to see some aerodynamic efficiency in the Aerostar. Perhaps some depolyable air dams and spoilers, and cargo mirrors. I'm willing to lend some CPU power to this endeavor. (CFD-At-Home, not unlike SETI-At-Home.)
I think we're finding a collective sigh of relief for an engine compartment that's easier to work in. As I was crawling around under my van yesterday, I couldn't help but notice that there were lots of space under the floor at various pockets. So I was thinking that if the fuel tank was placed more symmetrically, you might be able to make more under-floor storage, or seats that drop into the floor like other models.
Keeping it in the mini-van class, I would not make it too much bigger or longer than it already is. There are full sized vans that meet those requirements.
I don't suppose you also have a CFD program that you can put your models through? I would really like to see some aerodynamic efficiency in the Aerostar. Perhaps some depolyable air dams and spoilers, and cargo mirrors. I'm willing to lend some CPU power to this endeavor. (CFD-At-Home, not unlike SETI-At-Home.)
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To relocate tank is impossible, becouse there is no place for drive shaft. There is only 1 place for tank - beyeng the rear axe, but there is spare wheel!
The other way is to use fuel-cells ore Methan to reduse emmitions. In our country methan is better, all the city buses use it, but in the USA natural gas networks are not so well developed as in ex-USSR, but you have a lot of gas near the Rocky mountains, so in 3-5 years it may be widly used as transportation fuel. Havy Methan vessels under the truck improoves handling and prevents rolling-over.
The next. For me aero is too short. But it is really comfartable.
The archaic form of mirrors causes swirls at 80 mph and many drivers claim on door vibration, especially on windy roads, do look at Opel Omega 2003 (Cadilac Catera) mirrors, it is a good colution.
The other way is to use fuel-cells ore Methan to reduse emmitions. In our country methan is better, all the city buses use it, but in the USA natural gas networks are not so well developed as in ex-USSR, but you have a lot of gas near the Rocky mountains, so in 3-5 years it may be widly used as transportation fuel. Havy Methan vessels under the truck improoves handling and prevents rolling-over.
The next. For me aero is too short. But it is really comfartable.
The archaic form of mirrors causes swirls at 80 mph and many drivers claim on door vibration, especially on windy roads, do look at Opel Omega 2003 (Cadilac Catera) mirrors, it is a good colution.
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Originally Posted by Pablo-UA
To relocate tank is impossible, becouse there is no place for drive shaft. There is only 1 place for tank - beyeng the rear axe, but there is spare wheel!
The other way is to use fuel-cells ore Methan to reduse emmitions. In our country methan is better, all the city buses use it, but in the USA natural gas networks are not so well developed as in ex-USSR, but you have a lot of gas near the Rocky mountains, so in 3-5 years it may be widly used as transportation fuel. Havy Methan vessels under the truck improoves handling and prevents rolling-over.
The next. For me aero is too short. But it is really comfartable.
The archaic form of mirrors causes swirls at 80 mph and many drivers claim on door vibration, especially on windy roads, do look at Opel Omega 2003 (Cadilac Catera) mirrors, it is a good colution.
The other way is to use fuel-cells ore Methan to reduse emmitions. In our country methan is better, all the city buses use it, but in the USA natural gas networks are not so well developed as in ex-USSR, but you have a lot of gas near the Rocky mountains, so in 3-5 years it may be widly used as transportation fuel. Havy Methan vessels under the truck improoves handling and prevents rolling-over.
The next. For me aero is too short. But it is really comfartable.
The archaic form of mirrors causes swirls at 80 mph and many drivers claim on door vibration, especially on windy roads, do look at Opel Omega 2003 (Cadilac Catera) mirrors, it is a good colution.
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i've daydreamed about a new aerostar for some time. i think it should have full time awd, 4 wheel disc brakes abs of course. keep similiar shell, taper nose out 2.5 ft to allow some more engine room. keep same road height, widen stance about 6 inches.
i'd change the back hatch to a top hatch, bottom tailgate arrangement. tailgate could open down or to the side. i'd make the roof able to be openup like the chevy envoy for hauling big stuff.all seats would remove easily with wheels, all would recline and fold down to make a bed .rear window would pop open like dodge caravan. middle ones still slide like current ones
the engine tranny combinations would be 3.3 or 4.0 litre with 5 speed manual or 5 speed auto. towing package with tranny cooler optional. rick
i'd change the back hatch to a top hatch, bottom tailgate arrangement. tailgate could open down or to the side. i'd make the roof able to be openup like the chevy envoy for hauling big stuff.all seats would remove easily with wheels, all would recline and fold down to make a bed .rear window would pop open like dodge caravan. middle ones still slide like current ones
the engine tranny combinations would be 3.3 or 4.0 litre with 5 speed manual or 5 speed auto. towing package with tranny cooler optional. rick
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All great ideas. I would keep the back htch, but offer the tailgate version in the "sport" package. The towing package would come standard with a tranny cooler (on auto version). I like the seats with wheels idea. Stow and go wwould not be possible. Howver, the seat can fold forward for a flat area to lay crago across, or lay backward to form comfy beds. The captains chair will stay mostly the same, but gain a little more cushion. The center console will become sturdier, rather than the quite flimsy plastic in the older ones. I will have slideing doors on both sides like newer vans.
Rear sway bar is standard, as is rear AC (on passenger models). The better stereo with iPod connectivity is also optional. Available engines are
3.0 Duratec
4.0
4.6 V8
As far as what the grill would look like, I was thinking either the F series style, or one that is similar to the Ford Fusion. Either way, there needs to be more airflow than the older Aeros
One note on the newer chevy vans. They are just as hard to work on as a veture, because despite the large hood, and plenty of room in front of the engine, it is still crammed under the firewall.
Rear sway bar is standard, as is rear AC (on passenger models). The better stereo with iPod connectivity is also optional. Available engines are
3.0 Duratec
4.0
4.6 V8
As far as what the grill would look like, I was thinking either the F series style, or one that is similar to the Ford Fusion. Either way, there needs to be more airflow than the older Aeros
One note on the newer chevy vans. They are just as hard to work on as a veture, because despite the large hood, and plenty of room in front of the engine, it is still crammed under the firewall.