91 ranger 2.3 won't start, fuel injector problem?
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91 ranger 2.3 won't start, fuel injector problem?
I've got a '91 ranger tw. 2.3 that won't start. i've got fuel at fuel rail(all fuses good,pump, filter are good, got gas in tank, but it's is old). changed fuel pump and eec relays. it will start and run good if i supply gas into the throttle body. injectors seem to have power. please help! thanks guys
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Well if you have fuel getting to the rail, time to check spark and ignition timing for the fuel injectors.
These trucks were known for problems pointing to the DIS module mounted on the front of the intake manifold, behind the alternator (drivers side.) This module picks up information from the crank position sensor, throttle position sensor, and a few others to determine when to fire the coil packs, and when to fire the injectors.
I guess what we need is a little more information. Has the truck been sitting, or is it a daily driver that just wouldn't start one morning?
These trucks were known for problems pointing to the DIS module mounted on the front of the intake manifold, behind the alternator (drivers side.) This module picks up information from the crank position sensor, throttle position sensor, and a few others to determine when to fire the coil packs, and when to fire the injectors.
I guess what we need is a little more information. Has the truck been sitting, or is it a daily driver that just wouldn't start one morning?
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it has been sitting for close to a year. does the fact that it'll run fine when i'm i
it has been sitting for close to a year. before that. it ran fine.does the fact that it'll run fine when i'm injected gas mean anything? i can see that all connections to the DIS module are good.thanks
Last edited by fordfan1979; 05-08-2006 at 03:56 PM.
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Changing the filter may also help to increase the pressure in your fuel system. I'd be hesitant to rely on a filter that'd been sitting for a year. Unless the problem is on startup only. In other words, do you just have to start it with forced feeding and then it will run on it's own power, or must you continually supply it with gas?
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Maybe you could check the inertia switch. Idk if there is one on the 91, and I don't know if that would stop the injectors from firing. I imagine it would kill spark first... But you have spark. (Sorry if I'm not very helpful, it's late, I've worked 10 hours on my feet today and woke up really early to take a final, not to be using excuses or anything ) Check the intertia switch.
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Why haven't you checked for stored codes yet, in particular KOEO?
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Are they pulsing when cranking it, as evidenced by a VOM attached to an injector pigtail?
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Originally Posted by fordfan1979
by power to the injectors i mean when i test them with a simple test light(with key on), they're hot.
Last edited by CowboyBilly9Mile; 05-09-2006 at 12:02 AM.
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If the harness for the injectors is pulsing when cranking over, and obviously it has spark if it's manually injected with gas... that truck should be running. The only thing I can think of is that the gas is so old/bad that it won't fire. Which it could be, but I've got vehicles running off of gas that had been in them for a year and a half or two years. Or the other case could be that the injectors are clogged. But I honestly can't see them all clogging up at once. I've seen 2.3's that have been in the bone yard for 3 or 4 years fire up with no problems at all.
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You need to check for injector pulse with either a test light or a vom. The light being on solid is normal on one side of the connector. The system turns ground on and off to make the injectors fire. Check to see if the other side of the injector plug goes to ground when cranking or being fed gas through the TB. I have also seen this once before when a guy bought a tank of gas that had about two qts of water in it. I had to start it on ether and run it for a few seconds on ether to get it to clear the lines of water after we had drained the tanks and refilled. So that is also a possibility.