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Old 03-08-2006, 06:46 PM
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Smile Cooking Oil A Good Idea??

I work at a local ford dealer, we had one of out good customers come in the other day w/ a bad lack of power on his "04 6.0L... exhaust smelled really odd too!!
It had very low fuel pressure, we took a fuel sample was dirty,brown and thick!! almosty as thick as 10W-30!!!!
So we ended up removing and draining the tank as well as all of the nasty setiment from the local chinese restaurant..
replacing the fuel pump/heater assembly as well as the fuel filters.
luckily for the customer this fixed his truck and did not ruin the injectors.
He told us that he had boughten fuel in another state and could not remember the brand or even where it was???
So he did have to pay for this repair as well as some diag time.... THIS IS NOT COVERED BY FORD FOR 5YR/100K!!!MAKE SURE TO HEAT AND FILTER THE OIL IF YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEMPT THIS!!
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LOL! Kinda sounds like the same kinda answer that ER Docs get when the guy (or gal) comes in with somethin' 'stuck' up where it don't belong!
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LOL! Kinda sounds like the same kinda answer that ER Docs get when the guy (or gal) comes in with somethin' 'stuck' up where it don't belong!
LOL LOL!!! yep..
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Funny !!!!
I met a guy once with a cooking oil runnin truck and it stunk like a Mcdonalds on wheels, he gladly explained the process and it is a little more complicated than one might think. There are at least three filters, one of which is heavy duty like you would find on a mining truck, there are several pre-burn heaters to warm the oil up and nasty oil lines running all over the place, no thanks !!
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I work at a local ford dealer, we had one of out good customers come in the other day w/ a bad lack of power on his "04 6.0L... exhaust smelled really odd too!!
It had very low fuel pressure, we took a fuel sample was dirty,brown and thick!! almosty as thick as 10W-30!!!!
So we ended up removing and draining the tank as well as all of the nasty setiment from the local chinese restaurant..
replacing the fuel pump/heater assembly as well as the fuel filters.
luckily for the customer this fixed his truck and did not ruin the injectors.
He told us that he had boughten fuel in another state and could not remember the brand or even where it was???
So he did have to pay for this repair as well as some diag time.... THIS IS NOT COVERED BY FORD FOR 5YR/100K!!!MAKE SURE TO HEAT AND FILTER THE OIL IF YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEMPT THIS!!
good luck..
He knew where he "bought" the fuel. He tried to scam ford on warranty repair, but ya'll already knew this.

In the summertime I wouldn't push anymore then 20% filtered veggie with dino fuel in an unmodified fuel system.
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Not to mention everything I've read about using veggie oil states that the newer engines aren't near as likely to be problem free as the IDI.
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This is an interesting thread. What part of the country was this in? Sounds like the guys was blending. Maybe in a place that stays 100F all the time you could get away with this. But we don't recommend blending to our customers.

I now have over 12,000 miles on my truck running WVO in a two tank system. When I converted my truck it at 3900 miles on it. Things have been great.

I had some issues with the small secondary stock filter in the beginning. Plugged and died on the side of the road. Sad part was I had the filter in the truck (always care a spare when you do this) but I did not have the 1/2 drive ratchet to remove the cover. $35 buck cab ride later and I was back on the road.

I change this filter now about every 5-6,000 miles. The WVO never see the primary pump or filter. I need to change that one now that I have over 16K on the truck.

The 6.0 PSD engine in our opinion is a great motor to convert. The fuel travels through the heads so it's a great last heat source. Lost of folks spend god money for flat plate heat exchangers, Ford did the work for us.
The higher pressure injection also to me seems like it would be better for running WVO. The WVO will atomize better if it’s getting injected at the high pressure of the 6.0 versus some other engine.
Having a non-mechanical fuel pump make the conversion far simpler


I think as more and more come out of warranty you’ll see more and more of these getting converted. Also as fuel prices rise this summer again we’ll see increased interest.

New veggie oil is now cheaper in some parts of the country then diesel.
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I work at a local ford dealer, we had one of out good customers come in the other day w/ a bad lack of power on his "04 6.0L... exhaust smelled really odd too!!
It had very low fuel pressure, we took a fuel sample was dirty,brown and thick!! almosty as thick as 10W-30!!!!
So we ended up removing and draining the tank as well as all of the nasty setiment from the local chinese restaurant..
replacing the fuel pump/heater assembly as well as the fuel filters.
luckily for the customer this fixed his truck and did not ruin the injectors.
He told us that he had boughten fuel in another state and could not remember the brand or even where it was???
So he did have to pay for this repair as well as some diag time.... THIS IS NOT COVERED BY FORD FOR 5YR/100K!!!MAKE SURE TO HEAT AND FILTER THE OIL IF YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEMPT THIS!!
good luck..
"Blending" waste vegge oil with dino-diesel is NOT a very good idea. Conversion like Erick does works fine. Using biodiesel is ok too.
Dino-diesel does not mix very well with WVO, I've done some experimenting with it and I cannot get it to stay mixed even in small amounts. WVO is thicker and will settle to the bottom of the container.

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This is an interesting thread. What part of the country was this in? Sounds like the guys was blending. Maybe in a place that stays 100F all the time you could get away with this. But we don't recommend blending to our customers.

I now have over 12,000 miles on my truck running WVO in a two tank system. When I converted my truck it at 3900 miles on it. Things have been great.

I had some issues with the small secondary stock filter in the beginning. Plugged and died on the side of the road. Sad part was I had the filter in the truck (always care a spare when you do this) but I did not have the 1/2 drive ratchet to remove the cover. $35 buck cab ride later and I was back on the road.

I change this filter now about every 5-6,000 miles. The WVO never see the primary pump or filter. I need to change that one now that I have over 16K on the truck.

The 6.0 PSD engine in our opinion is a great motor to convert. The fuel travels through the heads so it's a great last heat source. Lost of folks spend god money for flat plate heat exchangers, Ford did the work for us.
The higher pressure injection also to me seems like it would be better for running WVO. The WVO will atomize better if it’s getting injected at the high pressure of the 6.0 versus some other engine.
Having a non-mechanical fuel pump make the conversion far simpler


I think as more and more come out of warranty you’ll see more and more of these getting converted. Also as fuel prices rise this summer again we’ll see increased interest.

New veggie oil is now cheaper in some parts of the country then diesel.
the newer diesels are not good for this because when you starve the 6.0 of fuel pressure if the filters or pump fail or get restricted... the injectors get airated and cause skipping and then these $300 each injectors need to be replaced...
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I guess I got lucky when I ran it out of fuel. To date (knock on wood) I have had no issues with my truck.
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