Input and or suggestions
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Input and or suggestions
Ok guys, here it is. I have been in the Ford trucks circle since I was born. Growing up, my family has owned dozens. We are a tried and trued 53-56 Ford truck family. Through the years, my experiences with these examples of automotive marvel, have taught me a lot, and I can honestly say that I do know more than the average person on this particular subject. I have tried and failed many times in attempts to launch my own business involving these trucks, and other classic American autos. I have decided that I may not be able to start and run my own shop, but I would like to do business on a regular basis involving these things. My question is, does any one have any ideas as to what I should do in the way of business. My thoughts were leading towards a joint venture, allowing me to focus on the Big Jobs, and building custom Big Jobs, and allowing a partner, or partners to focus on the smaller sized trucks. Any ideas, or offers, let's talk.
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Thats a hard one, The way I have seen my Father n' Law make a living with hot rods was to buy decent vehicles(In his case all mopars) That were pretty much there and or in good shape. Take it apart, detail it and rebuild it, then sell the vehicle. Its hard to make money when you specialize in one type of vehicle (From My Opinion).
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Kyle
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I don't see how anybody could make a living out of dealing with just the old Ford pickups. I see rod shops here and there that deal with alot of different hot rods and cars, that seem to do ok. Location is a big factor too, I would think. Alot of hot rod shops are in California and in general, areas that have a large population and other businesses locally to aid in a restoration, such as a chrome shop or a powder coater.
In my brutally, honest opinion, I don't think it could be done. There are only a few people I have come across that like the big, BIG, Ford trucks like you have, and they are on this board. I haven't seen any on the road, and I would say those that are interested in them, do their own work. However, that may be out of necessity, as in there is nobody who really knows them and they can take them to. Lets face it, these trucks are becoming a bit more scarce every year...with that comes less of a demand for anything in the way of parts or service.
I don't blame you for wanting to do what you love, that's what everybody should do
In my brutally, honest opinion, I don't think it could be done. There are only a few people I have come across that like the big, BIG, Ford trucks like you have, and they are on this board. I haven't seen any on the road, and I would say those that are interested in them, do their own work. However, that may be out of necessity, as in there is nobody who really knows them and they can take them to. Lets face it, these trucks are becoming a bit more scarce every year...with that comes less of a demand for anything in the way of parts or service.
I don't blame you for wanting to do what you love, that's what everybody should do
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If you are talking strictly restoration and service, I'd think you'd need to be somewhere there is a number of these trucks, or develop a reputation as the best person in the business by doing one or two so perfectly that you can enter and win a few prestigious awards and/or get it featured in a few magazines. Another way would be to build them up to modern standards and sell them at a competitive price to new to contractors etc as a working advertisement. I could be all wrong since I don't have interest in the big models, but my perception is that it's a very small market.
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My thoughts have been in the aquisition and tinkering of like year models of vehicles.
Example: 48 - 50 Ford Trucks or 42 - 48 Ford Cars, or any other like year groups.
I would purchase any and all that I could within reason, strip, swap out and assemble the best parts into complete running vehicles, complete vehicles minus engine/transmissions (Always questionable items), and compile the rest of the salvage parts into inventory for later use or sale.
I don't know how good a living one could make from this, but I would sure as heck have fun doing it.
Having given my idesa I forbid you to consider the specific years and models I mentioned in my examples.
Example: 48 - 50 Ford Trucks or 42 - 48 Ford Cars, or any other like year groups.
I would purchase any and all that I could within reason, strip, swap out and assemble the best parts into complete running vehicles, complete vehicles minus engine/transmissions (Always questionable items), and compile the rest of the salvage parts into inventory for later use or sale.
I don't know how good a living one could make from this, but I would sure as heck have fun doing it.
Having given my idesa I forbid you to consider the specific years and models I mentioned in my examples.
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Having your own business is very tough these days particularly in the hot rod and restoration business. The competition is stiff and there are so many people out there competing for your business. Even though I live in California, my opinion of having a shop for the 53-56 trucks would be great, however even in highly populated areas like Los Angeles, there are not that many trucks of that year running around. Of those who do own these trucks, most do the work themselves or have specialty shops do work they can't do, for example, upholstery, paint, engine work. In addition, there are too many big names out there that have already established a reputation for great work. People who want to pay to have their truck completed will take them to long distances to have these builders with a reputation or name build their trucks. I personally think if you were to open a specialized business such as body and paint, engine work, or upholstery, you'd have a better chance at a successful business. It also depends on how much money you want to make. The other thing that is killing businesses is the ability of access to the internet to purchase parts cheaper and get information as to what to do in fixing your truck. If you decide to open a shop, let us know, I'll send some business your way. Good luck!
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You are in a good location for rust-free parts - I intend to spend some time in central and eastern Oregon myself this summer looking for a big window cab.
Living where you do I would start a vintage parts company - a junkyard for old ford parts. I would dismantle them and sell everything from fenders to cab corners to wire looms. Sell on the internet and Ebay - check out ebay seller "custom-only" as he is doing this. See the seller of item 4618166928.
As I built my business I would do a few big trucks to use in the business, and to sell. You could even come up with some custom engine/tranny packages with mounts and crossmembers that you could sell as a package deal - used motor, tranny, and the kit to mount it in a specified truck.
Living where you do I would start a vintage parts company - a junkyard for old ford parts. I would dismantle them and sell everything from fenders to cab corners to wire looms. Sell on the internet and Ebay - check out ebay seller "custom-only" as he is doing this. See the seller of item 4618166928.
As I built my business I would do a few big trucks to use in the business, and to sell. You could even come up with some custom engine/tranny packages with mounts and crossmembers that you could sell as a package deal - used motor, tranny, and the kit to mount it in a specified truck.
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I admire your desire. From experience, my brother had owned and opperated a auto body, salvage, paint, media blasting business and dealership for 15 yrs. He hired a few guys here and there specializing in various areas. My brother however, did most the work. He also, during the lean times hit the pavement. His success was the media blasting, which he made it mobile. The auto, was never specialized to a particular make or model. He was doing alot of wreaks and painting. He was even restoring old tractors for a collector. Is there a market in Central Oregon? Well, we know there's money and alot of retired folks...Again as said, building a reputation is huge, 97 is great access to Redmond. The up coming show at Deschutes would be an excelent place to knock around the idea and bounce off some locals & oldtimers.
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Originally Posted by low54
Is there a market in Central Oregon?
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The marvel of the Internet is an option here.
For example, I have a neighbor that just moved in Utah from Calif. Before he was a Service Manager for a Honda(motorcycle) Dealer. He decided a few months back to start selling off all his old parts on Ebay and clean out his yard so the wife would get off his back. It ended up being a hidden gold mine for him. In the first month, he made over $25,000 from used parts. He contacted his friends that hoard motorcycle parts, and bought them, and sold them as well. He made enough money in 6 months he sold his house in Calif, moved to this small town in Utah where I live, and bought a house and a local Mechanic shop on Main street, and bought a Franchise in Arctic Cat line. He still sells on ebay. He picks up all the old bikes he can and parts them out.
The key is the Internet, be it parting and selling items, or just start a web sight that will advertise and show off what you do.
For example, I have a neighbor that just moved in Utah from Calif. Before he was a Service Manager for a Honda(motorcycle) Dealer. He decided a few months back to start selling off all his old parts on Ebay and clean out his yard so the wife would get off his back. It ended up being a hidden gold mine for him. In the first month, he made over $25,000 from used parts. He contacted his friends that hoard motorcycle parts, and bought them, and sold them as well. He made enough money in 6 months he sold his house in Calif, moved to this small town in Utah where I live, and bought a house and a local Mechanic shop on Main street, and bought a Franchise in Arctic Cat line. He still sells on ebay. He picks up all the old bikes he can and parts them out.
The key is the Internet, be it parting and selling items, or just start a web sight that will advertise and show off what you do.