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Old 03-24-2006, 04:28 PM
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Hey I am considering buying a late model 460 and was wondering if the E40D is capable of being bulletproofed. Is that possible? It seems to be the only weak link.
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There are updates for the E4OD which imporve it way beyond stock, but i dont know that anything is really bulletproof. I lost my stock E4OD 2 yrs ago (intermediate sprag made its own exit via the left side of the case) and i put in a reman w/updates (had to run new lines as part of the updates were larger cooler lines/fittings), i added an external cool besides the stock one in the radiator and have had no problems since.

I average 70k miles a year, pulling 7-10,000 lbs of trailer coast to coast commercially in a bored out 460 (472) F-250 4x4 on 33's.
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:39 PM
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Well if you are doing 70K while pulling 7-10K that's good enough for me. I don't tow much so an updated E40D should be fine. It has got to be better than worring about the plugs shooting out of my 2000 F150.
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I have a 1990 35' Holiday Rambler MH on a Ford chassis with a stock FI 460. Running 65-70 MPH I get about 6 MPG, at 55-60 MPH I get 8-8.5 MPG
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Well if you are doing 70K while pulling 7-10K that's good enough for me. I don't tow much so an updated E40D should be fine. It has got to be better than worring about the plugs shooting out of my 2000 F150.
I have had two V10's and three Triton 5.4's and none ever spat out a plug. I know it has happened, but I think the problem was long ago resolved.
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Old 03-31-2006, 10:25 PM
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Yes I think the problem has been resolved but I have the 2000 non PI heads so I don't have the upgrade. The fact that you have had 5 Tritons and never had a problem does make me feel better though. My 2000 only has 40K on it and in perfect shape so I am debating selling it.
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I put 188k on my first V10 (a 1997) and she still ran strong when I sold it. (October of last year). The only thing I ever had to do the the engine was change two coils (cops) and two sets of spark plugs. Always got better fuel economy than my 460 by far.

Before my first V10, no one could talk me out of my 460's. I had several of them and loved each one.
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That is good to hear. Maybe you could answer a couple of things for me. Did you do the plugs yourself? And as far as the 460 vs. V10, I know the V10 makes more power than the 460 but does the 460 make comarable power at low RPMS? What I mean is when you would just take off from stop lights under no load did one feel stronger than the other? At full throttle the V10 would walk away but I am wondering that since the 460 is a pushrod motor with different cam timing maybe it would work better at low RPM? I have a 351M in my work truck and it seems to be a better "truck" motor than my 4.6 even though they make comparable power. Thanks for all your help.
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Ford did the first plug change and a mechanic did the second (which I think it didn't really need). I let them do it because it was a van, and a hard job because of it. My truck is much more accessable.

It's really hard to compare the two on how they felt. Both towed effortlessly. The V10 was a lot smoother and acceleration seemed smoother in the V10. Two things were much different on the van with the V10. #1 was the fact it had two extra power strokes over the V8 and, #2 the V10 had a 4.10 axle vs the 3.55's I had in the old van. I never had a tach in either vehicle, but the V10 gears kept the low speed (1st gear rpms pretty high right out of the starting gate. The V10 idled smooth as glass, and many times I thought the engine had quit while sitting at a stop light.

Now my pick up truck is another story. It has 3.73's and leaps out of the hole. It's a newer version (2003). It pulls strong and harder than any of them right up to 90 mph. I love it. It's a romp and better than the 460 was IMHO.

I would also not be afraid to do the plugs on it when the time comes. Even the 460 was a b***h since it was a van.

As long as you drive in the proper rpm band it doesn't matter where each makes its power. The V10 can hit 5 grand and laugh, the 460 would grenade long before that. Just choose the right gears.

True the 460 makes gobs of power at lower rpms, but it really doesn't matter. The V10 can spread it out over a wider rpm band.
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Thanks for all the info, it makes my choice easier. Either way I'm sure it will be night and day compared to my 4.6 5 speed.
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If you are in SoCal I can put you in touch with an elderly gentleman who is looking to trade in his '96 460 for a new Super Duty. His son contacted me to let me know last week. He has driven it and says it really romps. I don't think it has hi miles on it. He babies it.
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if you are in Cali, my dad is focing me to switch vechiles.. ie sell what is currently mine and get a new one... well that means that i will end up selling my 96 f250 xlt cc, or just giving it to one of my relatives... i'll keep you guys/galls posted on if i will need to sell it if u want me to...
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I am in Orange,Ca. I still have a few months left to pay for my F150 so I will have to wait a while. I will probably only get about 10K tops for it so I will have to add a few bucks to move up. I don't know what he is asking for it but I will have about 15K to spend by the time I pay mine off. According to what I see in Truck Trader I should be able to get a 250 with reasonable mileage for that.
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Cool! He's in San Diego County (Poway). Not too far apart!
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I drive a 97' extended cab 460, with a 5spd hd trans, and 3.55's in the diff's. current milelage is 135500 miles, i drive it hard some, easy some then sometimes very hard, change oil every 5000 miles , avg gas milelage is 14 city 16-18 hwy. by far the best truck i've ever owened.
Thanks for posting this mileage. I used to have a '87 F350 Crew 4X4 with the 3.55's in it. I would get 13.5-15 on the highway and people wouldn't believe me. Having the manual transmission and 3.55 gearing seems to be the way to go with the 460's. I felt I had enough power to tow the 10,000 lb trailers, but wouldnt' have wanted to tackle too many Pennsylvania hills towing those 14,000 lb jobs.

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