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Old 02-08-2006, 10:19 PM
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Question 97 Mountaineer 5.0L Pull Fuel Fuse to Start

My 1997 Mountaineer 5.0L ususally starts, sometimes not, but always runs great after it starts. On the no starts, if I pull the fuel pump fuse, it starts every time as if it were flooded. 97K, new fuel filter, new plugs, can hear pump pressure up for 1-2 seconds, ran a bottle of chem tool through. Check engine light comes on, code shows evap system problem, replaced fuel cap and cleaned vent on carbon canister. Light may stay off for 60-70 miles after reset, or may go off on its own after several hundred miles.
 
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Holding the pedal to the floor while cranking will shut off the injectors and allow a flooded engine to start.

Post the exact codes you have gotten. They may help in diagnosing the starting problems.

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Code is PO442 - evap emmisions
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Codes and Fuel pressure

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My 1997 Mountaineer 5.0L ususally starts, sometimes not, but always runs great after it starts. On the no starts, if I pull the fuel pump fuse, it starts every time as if it were flooded. 97K, new fuel filter, new plugs, can hear pump pressure up for 1-2 seconds, ran a bottle of chem tool through. Check engine light comes on, code shows evap system problem, replaced fuel cap and cleaned vent on carbon canister. Light may stay off for 60-70 miles after reset, or may go off on its own after several hundred miles.
Evap fuel Code is PO442 - Fuel pressure tests-out a little low, but within range. Runs well, accelerates well, gas mileage steady at 15-17mpg in town. No-starts can happen if engine is cold or warm.
 
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Hey Steve is does that still hold true for today's vehicles? I thought that was limited to the old TBI systems and not the new SMPFI systems.
 
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The P0442 code is not related to anything else you are experiencing. The P0442 is due to the computer detecting a small-scale air leak into the evaporative emissions control system. It is unrelated to fuel pressure and engine operation. Personally, I would ignore it as long as you don't have emissions testing in your location. Just went through an ordeal with my 98 Contour and a P0442...

The throttle to the floor procedure is in the owner's manual.

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Thanks for the reply - how did you isolate/solve the leak? The Carbon cansiter, sensors, etc. all seem like a crap shoot. Thanks for your time.
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Thanks for the reply - how did you isolate/solve the leak? The Carbon cansiter, sensors, etc. all seem like a crap shoot. Thanks for your time.
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Low air pressure and soap solution...PITA.

After finding and fixing the only leak I could locate, it still popped the P0442. Surrendered and took it to dealer for "smoke test". No leaks found. They believe, after working with Ford's tech support hotline, that it's a flakey PCM. PCM was swapped, with neither a failure or an evap test pass. Still unresolved....

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