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Old 01-24-2006, 10:31 AM
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Is the 6.4L a Six Cylinder?

Found this site put up by Navistar's South American subsidiary. It has lots of details on a 6.4L diesel engine. You don't suppose Ford is just going to bolt on another turbo and work the emissions on this engine?

http://www.mwm.com.br/site/ing/produtos.asp?idp=16
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I think that is a marine/medium duty OTR diesel, with the 4cyl likely being the "pickup and bus" application for euro duty...........


thats what i get outta that site anyway.
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the new ford 6.4 is a over bored 6.0 with a low-high pressure two turbo system to do away with the bad variable van every one has had problems with. those 4 and sixs i personally doubt we will ever see here in a ford.
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here's some of the applications you'll see those engines used in.

http://www.mwm.com.br/site/ing/apli_auto.asp
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[QUOTE=A. Michael Foxtrot]here's some of the applications you'll see those engines used in.

http://www.mwm.com.br/site/ing/apli_auto.asp[/QUOTE]

OK... You'll notice that one of the vehicles that the engine is supposed to be used in is the F250. Wonder if that F250 is for the South American market only. Why would International be advertising this engine as an application for the F250 if they have no plans to install it in one?
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The engine used in the F250 is the 4.2l 6 cylinder...
http://www.mwm.com.br/site/ing/produtos.asp?idp=14

They were sold here for a few years. Best automotive diesel engine I have had anything to do with.
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i am very surprised to see the vw and volvo names with them since both make their own diesel engines.
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That 6 cylinder talk is funny, cause just today I was taking to someone that heard a rumor that it might be a V6 with twin turbo.

He said the bad thing about twin turbo is that if they are stacked, when one turbo goes bad it almost always takes out the second turbo also. Very costly. He said CAT has a diesel engine in some of their equipment that has the two turbos stacked, when one goes bad it takes out the other and it's around $10,000 in damages.

It will be interesting to see who is right when it finally is released. Will it be a bored out 6.0, or a whole new V8, or I-6, or V6........
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My thoughts exactly about the 6 cylinders. The south American International website is very clear that they have a 6.4L 6 cylinder engine and the F250 is an application for either that engine or the 4 cylinder. Since there is absolutely no way Ford would put a 4 cylinder in a Super Duty, it obviously points to the six. So what does it all mean? Can anyone tell by looking at that engine if it is a straight 6 like the Cummins or a V?

And what do you mean you heard a rumor? Anyone of any credibility? And what about those camera phone pics of an eight cylinder in testing?

Dang I'm hanging on by a thread here.

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Here is part of the news releas from the web site..."Navistar International Corporation (NYSE: NAV) announced today that its South American engine subsidiary, International Engines South America, has agreed to acquire MWM Motores Diesel Ltda (MWM), a major Brazilian diesel engine producer. Purchase price was not disclosed.
MWM produces a broad line of medium and high speed diesel engines ranging from 50 to 310 horsepower for use in pick-ups, vans, light and semi-heavy trucks, as well as agricultural, marine and electric generator applications. OEM customers include a number of the most important corporations in the automotive, agricultural and industrial segments, including General Motors, Volkswagen and Nissan. Annual production exceeds 85,000 engines with 2004 revenues for the privately held company of approximately $370 million."

International purchased this company March of 05.
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Looks like a "big" 6 .... maybe could be used for the 650 series ?

The engine listed for the S.Ameica F250 is a 4.2 liter ... a nice size , I still remember my great lil 240 I6 in my 66 F250 pulling loads of cattle to market ...

The 6.4 for the US F250-550 is the 6.0 big brother ...
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That's the question at hand. There have been camera phone pics of a twin turbo 8 cylinder enging posted and now there's this new information from International that describes a 6.4L 6 cylinder. As far as I know, everything about the 8 cylinder 6.4L is rumor and speculation and the info from International is pretty official.

6 or 8? Take your pick.
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My "pick" would be the I6 ... not sure if it would fit unde the hood of a "low body" 250 -550 series truck ???? No prob under the hood of the 650 seies ...
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The 6.4L will be a v8,it will have a dual stage turbo setup, and instead of a high pressure oil system it will be high pressure fuel. I think the block is based on the 6.0 with the changes for the oil and fuel systems. They are supposed to run very clean they put a particulate filter in the exhaust for this, and you can stand in front of the tailpipe and not smell diesel at all. The worst part about them is going to be that to do alot of the repairs to them you are going to have to lift the cab off to get to anything.
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