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Old 01-28-2006, 03:47 PM
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The 6.4L will be a v8,it will have a dual stage turbo setup, and instead of a high pressure oil system it will be high pressure fuel. I think the block is based on the 6.0 with the changes for the oil and fuel systems. They are supposed to run very clean they put a particulate filter in the exhaust for this, and you can stand in front of the tailpipe and not smell diesel at all. The worst part about them is going to be that to do alot of the repairs to them you are going to have to lift the cab off to get to anything.
This is great information. How can you be so sure with no official information coming from the manufacturer? What is the source of your knowledge? Sounds like an insider that may help us out. I only want info so I can make plans on my next purchase. Thanks for your help and don't hold back... GIVE US MORE
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I am a ford mechanic and I went to a class to talk about fixing 6.0's and the instructer told us a few things about the 6.4. He has seen one in a truck and heard it run, he said the exh didnt smell like diesel, and it didnt really sound any different ,but it ran good. He also told us that the grill on the 07 will lift up with the hood and it sounded like it will be bigger and the headlites will be different.
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I understand the twin turbo setup is suppose to be a progressive system. A smaller turbo to spool up the bigger turbo to eliminate lag.
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Which is alot of expense and possible problems to solve a problem that is not all that apparent ... time will tell .... The lift up grille sounds great ....
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[ The lift up grille sounds great .... [/QUOTE]

Till you hit your head on it when your working under there. Also behind the grille there are going to be alot of cooler's like trans,oil,fuel,radiator, power steering and I thought I heard 2 intercooler's.
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Old 01-30-2006, 10:35 AM
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I lifted the hood on a Ram 2500 the other day. It has the grill attached to the hood. It makes for an incredibly open engine compartment and doesn't require a step-stool to get in to it. However, I was immediately concerned about the radiator and other coolers just sitting out where you could accidentally damage them. Just leaning forward made me feel like I was going to damage the radiator. If you leaned on it or dragged an air hose over it, it would surely flatten out many of the cooling fins. Also, they were supported rather flimsily with brackets from the back. Just seemed kind of rinky-dink.

Overall, I liked the openness and accessbility but I didn't like the exposed cooling parts on the front end.
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it looked like the CUMMINS six.
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the new ford 6.4 is a over bored 6.0 with a low-high pressure two turbo system to do away with the bad variable van every one has had problems with. those 4 and sixs i personally doubt we will ever see here in a ford.
Everyone take a look at that. We already have enough rumors floating around here, let alone people saying this 6.4 is going to be a six cylinder. That information above is the real deal.

If you who choose to not believe that the 6.4 is a V8 will rewind back to 87 or 88 when the 6.9L diesel was bored over to the 7.3L. Thats .4L displacement increase. Same with the 6.0 to the 6.4.

The 6.4 is not a Cummins, is not a Cat, is not a 6 cylinder (rather that be an inline or the V configuration,) but IS an International built V8. So thats that.
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Everyone take a look at that. We already have enough rumors floating around here, let alone people saying this 6.4 is going to be a six cylinder. That information above is the real deal.

If you who choose to not believe that the 6.4 is a V8 will rewind back to 87 or 88 when the 6.9L diesel was bored over to the 7.3L. Thats .4L displacement increase. Same with the 6.0 to the 6.4.

The 6.4 is not a Cummins, is not a Cat, is not a 6 cylinder (rather that be an inline or the V configuration,) but IS an International built V8. So thats that.
I don't think anyone is "choosing" to believe anything. The point of the original question was to discuss the information posted by International's South American division. There are many who found it interesting that IH is advertising a 6 cylinder 6.4L diesel and they've identified the Ford F250 as an application. This was simply a point of interest and worthy of open discussion in this rumor-only forum. To say, "real deal" or "that's that" is just another voice in the fray until you or anyone else can produce some official and conclusive information produced by either Ford or International.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:15 PM
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Sorry, it seemed to me that everyone was talking about the six cylinder 6.4 coming to the states.

I think the pictures that you may not have seen yet are enough proof. If you know international engines as well as most of us here, you will be able to tell that the 6.4 that is being tested at the emissions plant is in fact an 8 cylinder. A picture is worth a thousand words, remember that. And that is definately an International engine.
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Harumpf! Everyone, give the man a Harumpf! LOL (blazing saddles btw). I have to agree with him as far as the pictures go, It does look like a V8. Hey, heres an idea, I drive by the Indianapolis plant quite a bit. Maybe I could sneak in there and get some pictures...
One thing that just tickled my brain is this: What if IH/Ford did punch the 6.0 out to a 6.4, and did twin turbo it, but instead of twin inline turbos, they turboed each bank of cylinders, like the twin turbo 350 Gale Banks has out. I think you all know what I'm refering to, but if not ~>
http://www.bankspower.com/twin-turbo-engine.cfm
Please note this is a shot in the dark/suggestion. Also note the time this post was written.
Just an idea.

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Photos would be nice. If you live close to the plant, why not? Can't be that hard to find an employee who can bring out some document. Maybe just walk up to the receptionist and ask for information on their current products. She may just hand something over...
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I don't live close to the plant per se, I just drive by it every day on my way to class.
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