can a 460 out run a stock hemi
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While I have never raced one, from my experiance I'd say yes. I bought a 05' Dodge 3/4 ton for a work truck for one of my employees. I drove it around for a few days before I let him have it and was not overly happy with the preformance.
Just from a seat of the pants feel I'd say my tired 460 in my '79 would beat it, but like I said, I never raced it.
Just from a seat of the pants feel I'd say my tired 460 in my '79 would beat it, but like I said, I never raced it.
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All I know is that a Dodge Hemi-powered 2wd 1/2-ton pickup found it impossible to pull away from my '83 F250 4x4 up to about 65 mph (that's as high as we went). My '83 is completely stock, except for the exhaust, and it has 106,000 miles on it.
So, I'd have to say that at least a stock 460 is about the same as a stock hemi in the speed range I indicated above. I suspect that my F250 is somewhat heavier than the 2wd half-ton Dodge.
So, I'd have to say that at least a stock 460 is about the same as a stock hemi in the speed range I indicated above. I suspect that my F250 is somewhat heavier than the 2wd half-ton Dodge.
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dodge is comming out with bigger new hemi's, now i dont think its going to be avalable in trucks only in the chargers, and i think its going to be up to a 6.6 liter, so i dont think it will beat it butwould be intersting, now dont take my exact word but i do remember seeing engine options on thier website
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Most engines now have hemis they came out in the 60 and 70 and were proven to be efficient so on most engines they are hemis its just DamilerChryslers name it dosent mean anything just make the truck more desirable so i'd say maybe a 460 is a hemi also but its got more torque than a ram. It would be close just everythin would have to be running up to snuff on the 460.
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Timberwolf;
It depends where we're talking about here, too. Are we talking about from a red light or on top end? I built my 460 with the theory that it's NOT a drag car because of it's weight dis-advantage and the inability to get a built 460 to hook up at the rear with an empty bed. SO....... as I drive 110 miles daily through twisty-curvy moutain roads through north georgia (I RARELY get on an expressway), I built Harrison for mid-range torque. If I had planned on doing a lot of expressway driving I would have shot for high end speed.
Anyhoodle.... most of the macho trucks / ricers / what-have-you will be approaching one of the myraids of mountains we have around here at about 50 - 60 mph and then start wheezing as they approach half way up the mountain and end up getting blown to smithereens by Harrison who "wakes up" right at about 60 .... so, as they are fizzling to the side, Harrison is JUST waking up and ready to play.... but nobody's around to play with!! Forget the Hemi's; Harrison's run past 2 late model porsches next to lake allatoona and they weren't just "letting me" pass, either!!.......
If I had a chance to do it all again, I'd still build him for "mid range" 'cuz that's when you're going to SURPRISE all these other "power-wagons". True, he's got the low end power too, he'll downright SCARE you with what's available under the hood going through two 48" thrush tin cans... but sure as HE__ is fun!!
It depends where we're talking about here, too. Are we talking about from a red light or on top end? I built my 460 with the theory that it's NOT a drag car because of it's weight dis-advantage and the inability to get a built 460 to hook up at the rear with an empty bed. SO....... as I drive 110 miles daily through twisty-curvy moutain roads through north georgia (I RARELY get on an expressway), I built Harrison for mid-range torque. If I had planned on doing a lot of expressway driving I would have shot for high end speed.
Anyhoodle.... most of the macho trucks / ricers / what-have-you will be approaching one of the myraids of mountains we have around here at about 50 - 60 mph and then start wheezing as they approach half way up the mountain and end up getting blown to smithereens by Harrison who "wakes up" right at about 60 .... so, as they are fizzling to the side, Harrison is JUST waking up and ready to play.... but nobody's around to play with!! Forget the Hemi's; Harrison's run past 2 late model porsches next to lake allatoona and they weren't just "letting me" pass, either!!.......
If I had a chance to do it all again, I'd still build him for "mid range" 'cuz that's when you're going to SURPRISE all these other "power-wagons". True, he's got the low end power too, he'll downright SCARE you with what's available under the hood going through two 48" thrush tin cans... but sure as HE__ is fun!!
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Depends on car/enginer builder/state of tune.
Remember that in the "old days" the 460 was a Lincoln and big car engine, not a performace car engine, even though it could "step out" pretty good.
The Hemi Chrysler of years past was a performance engine. Although, the Boss 429 gave it fits on NASCAR super speedways in the late 60s and early 70s. Even the regular 429/460 engine could do that "IF" built properly. Most of these came through the factory in a pretty soft state of tune as compared to the 426 Chrysler which was a window rattler.
It all "depends" on who built what and how.
I understand the the "new" hemi is short on torque, and Ram p/u's so equipped feel "soft" when pressed. I haven't driven one, so I'll reserve final judgement.
Depends on car/enginer builder/state of tune.
Remember that in the "old days" the 460 was a Lincoln and big car engine, not a performace car engine, even though it could "step out" pretty good.
The Hemi Chrysler of years past was a performance engine. Although, the Boss 429 gave it fits on NASCAR super speedways in the late 60s and early 70s. Even the regular 429/460 engine could do that "IF" built properly. Most of these came through the factory in a pretty soft state of tune as compared to the 426 Chrysler which was a window rattler.
It all "depends" on who built what and how.
I understand the the "new" hemi is short on torque, and Ram p/u's so equipped feel "soft" when pressed. I haven't driven one, so I'll reserve final judgement.