Arizona, chime in on these chemical costs

kennedyford · #1 (**permalink**) 11-02-2005, 10:52 PM

Both Rooster and I talked today and found we were both paying too much for our chemicals. Here is what we found

I paid about $27.00 for 50.12lb of lye Brothers chemicals in phoenix
Rooster pd about 60 somethin

I paid over $8/gallon for methanol for 5 gal or 3.16 for 54 gal +10 barrel core

Rooster pd $2.67 a gall no core at Western Petroleum in phoenix

Also Westerm has commercial biod for sale at $2.84/gal

I can purchase 55 gal of methanol from a family member wholesale for $2.10 a gallon. Prob is that I have to travel to get, but im there at least once a month.

digracer · #2 (**permalink**) 11-03-2005, 11:50 AM

A.P.E. fuels here in Tucson told me they would sell me a 55 gallon drum of Methanol for $200.00. You can't beat 2.10 a gallon for it! That sounds like an awesome buy.

I haven't checked out the pricing on lye yet.

kennedyford · #3 (**permalink**) 11-04-2005, 10:08 AM

Dig just drive up here if you have too and you can fil your truck up at the same place with b100 and race back home.lol

digracer · #4 (**permalink**) 11-05-2005, 12:21 PM

Where exactly is Anthem? I looked for it on my Arizona atlas, and I couldn't find it.

digracer · #5 (**permalink**) 11-05-2005, 12:24 PM

Forget it. I saw the reply in the other thread. ;D

kennedyford · #6 (**permalink**) 11-05-2005, 12:49 PM

Yeah im in avondale righ now, ill be movin in a few weeks.

kennedyford · #7 (**permalink**) 11-16-2005, 12:59 PM

Here it is q right at the top for you.

Fire Rooster · #8 (**permalink**) 12-17-2005, 10:52 PM

OK WSP is still the cheapest for the methanol at 147.00 for a 55 gallon drum. (your own drum). Brothers chemicals is the cheapest for Lye. at 27.00 a 50lb bag. Kennedy how is your process coming along? Haven't heard from you in a while.

kennedyford · #9 (**permalink**) 12-23-2005, 09:33 PM

Been really busy with a busted truck, tranny, motor, upgrades, codes and trying to make ends meet while im down. Its just sitting in a barrel right now.

chadjones99 · #10 (**permalink**) 01-07-2006, 11:13 PM

i just started making bio diesel and well it looks pretty good before i wash it, still waiting for my washed batch to settle (20 hours now) anyway. it is going slow.
anyway this is not why i am asking this, but how many people skip the wash ? if you mixing it do you really need to do this. I have a friend up in CO. that does not wash, and has had no problem yet( been running 80-100% for a year with no wash), he has a 96 PSD ( i think)
well i am just worried that some of the water will get stay in the fuel, if i wash
thanks
chad

rcdallas · #11 (**permalink**) 01-07-2006, 11:52 PM

The homebrew pro's swear by washing your Bio several times. Unwashed fuel is not good in the long run. I would think adding heat will speed the process in the settling. Good source of info is:

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc

fabmandelux · #12 (**permalink**) 01-08-2006, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadjones99

i just started making bio diesel and well it looks pretty good before i wash it, still waiting for my washed batch to settle (20 hours now) anyway. it is going slow.
anyway this is not why i am asking this, but how many people skip the wash ? if you mixing it do you really need to do this. I have a friend up in CO. that does not wash, and has had no problem yet( been running 80-100% for a year with no wash), he has a 96 PSD ( i think)
well i am just worried that some of the water will get stay in the fuel, if i wash
thanks
chad

I've been producing Biodiesel for almost 2 years now. I tried washing and didn't like it, to many problems. I make approx 800 gal/week, and let each batch settle 1 week in my first tank, then for 4 weeks in a second tank. I've had two samples CG tested and both have met ASTM spec biodiesel. So far I've had no fuel related problems.FABMANDELUX

kennedyford · #13 (**permalink**) 01-09-2006, 12:37 PM

There is a chemical that ive seen on ebay that is just a powder you put in to take all the small particles out, I just dont remember the name of it.

chadjones99 · #14 (**permalink**) 01-09-2006, 05:48 PM

anyone have problems with clogged filter when they started running bio ?

kennedyford · #15 (**permalink**) 01-10-2006, 11:23 AM

Yeah but that is to be expected the first tank because it washes every bit of junk from your fuel tanks and lines. Just carry a spare for a while. Youll want to make sure your seals and lines are newer quality because of the ability for bio to break them down. Like disolves like. Do some reading on different bio sites for specifics.