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Old 11-01-2005, 09:05 PM
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Exclamation Distributor Stuck in 351M Please help!

I went to adjust the timing on my 1977 f-150 and found that the distributor is stuck in the block. The clamp comes off but the distributor will not turn in the block. I have been soaking it with PB Blaster and Kroil and still no luck, I have tried tapping it with and small hammer etc... Does anyone have any tricks on getting it loose? i dont want to hit it too hard because i dont want to crack it.
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Old 11-02-2005, 01:48 PM
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Yeah, okay, first: settle down. Next, Take a red rag fold it into fours and wrap it around the dizzy shaft, and then take a pair of vice grips, clamp them as hard as you can (with two hands!)around the rag over the dizzy shaft. When you are sure that there is no way that they will slip off and the grips themselves are at a 90 degree angle in proporion to your motor, take a hammer and start tapping gently back and forth in the outward most part of the handles. As you are doing this, progressively tap harder while alternating left to right. This works, I've done it a million times and it works almost every time. The only time it does'nt work is when the dizzy is absolute junk and you have to heat up the shaft with ox/acetylene to get it out. If you end up having to do that throw the dizzy away. The casting is the flimsiest cast aluminum ford could find and it will undoubtedly be warped afterwards. Hooray for M-blocks!! BTW- "M" really does stand for modified, as in: "Modified Cleveland" it is in the Ford factory literature, look it up!
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Yes but they never threw an M on the 400, and it was out for 5 yrs before the 351M. The M was there just to distinquish between the C, and the W. Call it what you will. Literature was written by marketing, not engineers.
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There is one sure, safe method that I used after asking around here and after cracking my distributor trying every other possible manner of freeing it. It got my cracked distributor out easily and saved me from ruining a second stuck one from a donor engine:

Soak well (days) like you've already done with your favorite miracle penetrant.
Take the oil pan off, remove the oil pump.
Tap the hex drive that goes from the distributor to turn the oil pump from the bottom up to the distributor.
A few good center taps should pop it right out, I tapped with increasing force and it got mine.

Like I said wish I'd known about it earlier because it would have saved me some grief and kept me from damaging that cast metal.
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Thanks for all of the advice. I will give it a try tommrow and post how i make out with it.
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Yes but they never threw an M on the 400, and it was out for 5 yrs before the 351M. The M was there just to distinquish between the C, and the W. Call it what you will. Literature was written by marketing, not engineers.
you know, this is the most plausible explanation I've heard yet... it's half way between the c and w... i can hear it now... well, let's just split the difference!
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:25 AM
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Thats a good one!
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I want one of those too, the feeling it must bring...

sorry though... I'll try to be better really i will...
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Hey redneck, did u ever get your distributor out?
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It's Still stuck in there!

Nope it's still stuck in there!
We've tried the vise grips idea, a hammer, a bigger hammer, and air chisel, a bigger air chisel, and it still doesnt want to budge. i've got it soaking with all sorts of penetrating oil for now and were gonna try it one more time with the air chisel tommrow but I think we might end up having to try and heat it up and then replace the ditributor. one of my buddies has an extra he'll give me so that might be what i end up doing.
I'll let everyone know when i get it out.
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Did you try knocking it out from underneath?
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I have had some success with a flat nail puller under the flange on the dizzy. Just tap it in with a hammer, and then using the puller leverage, tap on the puller to drive the dizzy up. If you can get it to move just a little spray penetrant in the joint. Then leave it sit and try all methods again later.
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I soaked mine for weeks with PB with no luck at all. We tried everything then finally removed the oil pan and oil pump and pounded it up from below. the distributor was a write off which did not matter to me as the point of this was to put an msd unit in anyway. If they don't want to come out they can really mean it.
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Mine was stuck, was soaking for 'months' with penetrant. I beat on it with a hammer and pry bar (broke the distributor, don't do this!!). It threw the timing off so much it wouldn't run, and I couldn't re-adjust it. I ended up pulling the 400M engine and rebuilding it, but that distributor was practically welded stuck. I got it off by removing everything in my way 'braces, ect'.., clamping the largest vice grips I could find on the shaft, and using a pipe on the end of the vice grips just to get it to move. It took that much! Even with that, it took several times moving back and forth before it would finally pull out. What a hassle!!! I'd swear it was welded on there, but it wasn't. Just stuck from sitting for 25 years without being moved. Got a MSD setup now, including distributor. I'm kinda glad I broke it. Runs great now!
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