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Max run time/duty cycle for a diesel

What's the max amount of time you can continuously run a diesel engine? Not talking about a PSD. I'm referring to diesel engines on backup generators. The 50-100kw size. How many hours can they be run before you have to let them cool down, service, etc?
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As long as the load is sized within the engin's continuous duty hp ratings, it is designed to run continuously---forever.

I don't believe I have EVER seen a continuous duty hp rating for the 6.0 diesel.
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What's the max amount of time you can continuously run a diesel engine? Not talking about a PSD. I'm referring to diesel engines on backup generators. The 50-100kw size. How many hours can they be run before you have to let them cool down, service, etc?
If you could figure out a way to change the oil, coolant, filters, etc while the engine is running you would never have to shut it down. If you are in a situation that absolutely requires non-stop power, like a hospital or something, then I would imagine you have to have more than one generator anyway.
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If you could figure out a way to change the oil, coolant, filters, etc while the engine is running you would never have to shut it down. If you are in a situation that absolutely requires non-stop power, like a hospital or something, then I would imagine you have to have more than one generator anyway.
you could use a oil filter relocation kit and use 2 filters. a few valves thgat way you could switch the oil flow to the other filter.

as for changing the oil.....i would say they you could set up a sytem that would drain the used oil and fill it at the same time. although you would have to drain and fill at the same rates. possibly fill faster than drain.
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So what is your situation anyway? I'm curious why you want to know how long to run the gen without shutting off.
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almost all diesels have a large enough oil sump that you can do part oil changes, probably best to have it tested to determine change intervals. replace any of the filters with a dual remote setup that you can valve off each filter individually and don't forget about a an air vent for the fuel
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I'm not interested in running a diesel forever. I'm just trying to find out how long you can run a diesel, on say a 100kw generator, before you have to shut it down for maintenance. 24 hours, 50 hours, 100 hours, longer?
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Depends on a few factors. Like oil sump capacity. The bigger the sump, the longer you can run it. In your case I would want to use synthetic oil and a bypass filter. Big rigs can go 100,000 miles without changing oil that way. Perhaps consider a dry sump system and switchable tanks. That way you never have to shut it down unless something broke.
I don't know where you live, but you may want to check into neighborhood noise abatement rules. I would be VERY irritated at a constant engine noise while I am trying to sleep, and would be doing something about it.
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Thanks, I'm a good neighbor though. I'd only try it somewhere suitable.
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this was along time ago, but my uncle used to work for A railroad, dunno which one, but he said the generators were never turned off, not even for oil changes, they let them run non stop and rebuilt them every 2 years which works out to be 17,520 hours of continous operation on the same oil. but fuel was cheaper then, he said they stopped doing that in the late 60's.

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At my last job we ran our generators 24/7 for seven months straight. We changed the oil, oil filter, and inline fuel filter once a week. We could have ran them longer without service but its cheap insurance to keep the fluids clean.
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how long do yall think a PSD could run for
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Probably 300 continuous hours. I think that is the recommended oil change interval.
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From my days in the USMC we ran generators constantly for 7 days before changing oil and filters. We used 7 days because it was easy to compute from start up to change.


Once ran a 100kw 6 cyl CAT 21 days with no damage just a hell of a lot of fuel.
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I'm not interested in running a diesel forever. I'm just trying to find out how long you can run a diesel, on say a 100kw generator, before you have to shut it down for maintenance. 24 hours, 50 hours, 100 hours, longer?
It depends on the recommendations of the engine manufacturer. However, most of these recommendations are developed for cyclic use such as in a tractor - something that is started and stopped on a "frequent" basis.

A diesel engine on a generator is almost the perfect application for long engine life. Nearly contant RPM, which yields fairly constant temperature and infrequent start ups. You can probably excede the manufacturers recommendations and be fine.

I have seen many diesel engines in a pumping application where they are started and shut down once a month for maintenance. That's 720 hours on an oil change. As for lifespan on these engines? 50,000 - 60,000 hours was common. I personally know of a couple of instances where the engine ran for over ten years in constant use (shut down for maintenance once a month, sometimes more often for other repairs) without a major overhaul. The engines I'm talking about are small air-cooled engines made in England by Lister. Absolutely amazing engines.

There used to be some Lister factory literature available where they had gensets being used in the Arctic. Something to do with the early warning system. If memory served me correctly they ran for something like 13 years straight - never shut down. They had a large oil sump system like some of you have described. I won't swear by this information since it's been several years since I saw the flier.
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