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Old 11-24-2008, 02:27 PM
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Here's a question for you all...

You've gone to the trouble of getting the valve covers off to replace the glow plugs. What else do you change while your there? My truck has nearly 200K (97 PSD CC SB 4X4)and I would guess that it is completely stock, should I look at anything else while I'm in here?
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You could look at the rockers to see if they are bent. They usually don't bend unless there is high HP. That is pretty much all to do in ther. Oh yeah inspect closely the wiring harness. Make sure it is not burnt or rubbing anywhere.

Also while you are in there just replace the injectors with Stage I's or II's. LOL
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Mike I just noticed something. You joined in Jan of 2007 and this is your first post?!

Where have you been. LOL come on out brother and post up with us. You will learn much and have lots of fun. We are glad to have you here and remember there are no stupid questions.

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does anyone know a trick for removing broken glow plugs? I have two plugs in my engine that are stuck. when I pulled them out (it was a grueling battle), only the sleeve came out, leaving the filament and such. (they were beru's, btw)
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Here's a question for you all...

You've gone to the trouble of getting the valve covers off to replace the glow plugs. What else do you change while your there? My truck has nearly 200K (97 PSD CC SB 4X4)and I would guess that it is completely stock, should I look at anything else while I'm in here?
Yes. Recheck the torque on the rocker arm and injector mount bolts. Not only will you be surprised how many of them will take a little more torque, but also at how much quieter the engine runs.
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Oh yeah. I guess it would help if I added the torque spec's. 120 in/lbs for the injector hold down bolts, and 20 ft/lbs for the pedestal bolts.
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I skimmed through all posts and seen you guys did good job of covering issues but I still have question about the ground circuit wire on GPR. Does anyone know how to track down the source of this wire or circuit? I would like to fix it so I can remove my little push button switch I installed for now.
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I skimmed through all posts and seen you guys did good job of covering issues but I still have question about the ground circuit wire on GPR. Does anyone know how to track down the source of this wire or circuit? I would like to fix it so I can remove my little push button switch I installed for now.
Here ya go:
Arrow D (P/O) Purple/Orange wire is going to the PCM. This likely the wire you have spliced into your switch.
It completes the ground circuit to the PCM

The F & G Arrows are going to the GP's.
Power is supplied to them through the fusible links to the
(BK/O) Black/Orange wire. These are the big wires on the GPR.

The R/LG (Red w/light green wire) is the power to the small wire on the GPR


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Old 11-30-2008, 02:09 PM
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could one glow plug not working cause the truck to smoke until the engine warms up?
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Changed One

I had big plans to change all 8 glow plugs while I was under the covers but turned out that I had purchased the WRONG parts. I went to my local International dealership (Bayshore International) with the list that I got off of this site but like a dumb a$$ I got the numbers off of the 1999 to 2003 forum.

Part Numbers I got and their prices for anyone interesed.
UVC Harness IH # 1830844C93 $39.67/each
Gasket IH # 1826703C1 $65.40/each
Glow Plugs IH # 1820697C2 $19.12/each

Luck would have it that the GLow Plugs were the same from 1995 to 2003ish so I did have the key part that I needed. Once I realized that I had the wrong harnesses and gaskets my energy dropped exponentially! The risk of making a mistake without the right parts was too much for me. I did pull all of the connectors and checked the remainder of the plugs and they all checked out with a resistance of 0ohms, the same as the new ones.

I guess next time I go to the internet to get part numbers I'll be a little more carefull! The story ends happily I got the bad GP (that was throwing a code) replaced, IH told me they would take back anything I didn't use.

Seems like a comprehensive list that includes all the parts that you would need to make this repair would be helpfull. I think the list on the very fist post has the GPR and the GP numbers but does not include the VC Gaskets or UVC Harness numbers. I did a search in the thread and didn't see those two numbers anywhere.
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could one glow plug not working cause the truck to smoke until the engine warms up?
Yes. In the middel of the summer my trucked stated to smoke on startup. Took the test meter and found one that showed a open circuit. Turned out to be the harness under the VC.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:18 PM
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does anyone know a trick for removing broken glow plugs? I have two plugs in my engine that are stuck. when I pulled them out (it was a grueling battle), only the sleeve came out, leaving the filament and such. (they were beru's, btw)
Did you ever get it out? If not soak it with PB Blaster and let it sit for a while and turn the engine over. The compression from the engine will pop it out. Never did this myself but other on this site have had luck with this and it has to be the easiest way to do it. Got to be careful the element will fly out like a bullet. Make sure its not pointed at your house or your neighbors prized pig.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:11 PM
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today at orielys i found out they sell a set of vavle cover gaskets that come with new pigtails and under valve cover wring harness to they were like $80 and the part number is dorman 615-202
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:05 PM
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Been getting a lot of white smoke at idle at startup and for the first 3 or 4 mins when shifting gears and giving it a little fuel. Truck starts on first crank and only smokes like this in the morning. Parked in the garage, temps 15 outside, probably around 25-30 inside. Checked all GPs and were 1.5-2 ohms. Could anything else such as injectors/o-rings or sensors cause this? It wouldn't surprise me except it starts up as easily as it would in the summer if I leave the key on for 30 seconds before starting. Haven't tried plugging it in, but will try tonight. Any ideas?
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:46 PM
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ok i checked all my wiring harness and fixed the burnt ones replaced all glow plugs got new injectors and it still smokes on start up and the glow plug relay is good anything else that can cause white smoke?
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