lightforce 240 hid

[greythorn3]

anyone run these lights? are they worth the money? and how well do they take running over trees without lense protection? ray

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I run a set of Hella Hid's and I can tell you that HID is worth the money. I know a couple of guys that run light force lights and I would think that the flimsy mounting arm might not stand up to tree's very well. The lexan lens on the light force is tougher than the glass lens on the Hella's but the mounting base on the Hella is ten times tougher than the light force. The light force lights also shake a little on rough roads due to the flimsy mounting arm.

[greythorn3]

dont want no shaky lights, oh well a guy was trying to sell me his... guess iw ill pass.

Ray

[mlb4966]

How much was he asking? I have the 240 non hid and they light up one mile of the road. The HID should light up much more. I do notice a "Little" shaking on rough roads but steady on the highway. I use mine for highway driving and have never had an issue with them shaking but for off-road I can see were the bracket can be stronger. I still think for light output cannot be beat. The regular 240 are just as strong if not stronger than the competion's HID. Havent had the chance to compare the Lightforce 240 HID to the regular 240's. I know the new regular 240 are $300 and the HID are $1000.

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Originally Posted by mlb4966

The regular 240 are just as strong if not stronger than the competion's HID.

No way does a regular light compare to an HID! I have a set of HID and I have several sets of other lights(most in the shop on the shelf). You can take the best PIAA bulb, Light force bulb or KC bulb and they don't hold a candle to any brand of HID lights. HID is a total different unit than a standard light. What brand were you comparing your standard 240's too? Must have been some off the wall generic brand that claimed to be a HID. I run about 120,000 miles a year mostly on the Dalton highway and I can tell you that nothing compares to a HID. I have run large piaa's, hella's, lightforce, KC's and a few other brands and the HID outperforms them all weather it be Hella, Lightforce or KC hid's. You get what you pay for and hid's are the spendy ones.

[mlb4966]

My comparison is just the numbers given by each manufactor. I have yet to do a side by side comparision. Would be nice to do but I havent had the opportunity yet.

As for what I have for numbers. (From the Internet)
KC 6" HID - 275,000 Candlewatt power per. Also listed as 600,000 per pair
Lighforce 6" - 350,000 Candlewatt power. 700,000 pair
Lightforce 9" (Older model-vented) 750,000 Candlewatt power 1,500,000 per pair
Lightforce 9" (Newer model) 1,000,000 Candlewatt power 2,000,000 per pair
Lightforce 9" HID - No numbers are given
PIAA - Also couldnt get any number via Candlewatt output
Hella FF 1000 HID - Once agian no numbers to compare.
Rallye 4000 HID - Same

Not sure if I should be comparing the Candlewatt output or not. Yep I know that HID is 3x brighter than normal lights so the numbers above have me somewhat confused. I would like to think my regular 9" lights are pretty bright but if the HID put them to shame then I diffently need to upgrade. I do like alot of light while driving on the highway. I'll try to find someone with HID here locally and do a comparsion to see how they hold up. Until then I shut my trap

PS. Greythorne. How much for the HID Lightforce?

[greythorn3]

well he wanted 600 for the pair, and sold them to his brother in law yesterday


ray

[mlb4966]

Thanks Ray.

I did see some of the above mention models on the internet for about the same price new.

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Originally Posted by mlb4966

Not sure if I should be comparing the Candlewatt output or not?

You cannot compare different brands of lights by there advertised "candlepower". Problem with the "candlepower" rating is there is no industry standard. One company may claim 1,000,000 candlepower and the competitions 750,000 candlepower light will blow them away. Each manufacturer rates there lights by what they feel a candlepower should be. I guess some of them just use a bigger wick. Only way to really compare is to hook them up side by side and see how they compare. In the past some 4wd magazines have did some comparisons but I have not seen any lately with the newer lights.

[DaveAK]

I remember an article in Fourwheeler magazine that compared lights. You might search their web site for it.
Just my two cents.

[mlb4966]

I'll take a look. I tried an internet search (Driving Lights Comparsion and HID Comparsion) but had no luck.

I also see the 240 went up to almost $4000 here at the NAPA store.