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Old 08-25-2014, 07:47 AM
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Thanks mtflat. I had found blue under the dash but was not sure if it was original color or not.
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49 F1
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I am needing help verifying that our pickup is a 1949. It has no engine, or seats. Inside on the front passenger side we have a plate with VIN number, and after reading on this thread I looked in the glove box and it has another plate in there, but with the same VIN number. Only difference, the glove box plate says Model 9RC. I have 2 pictures. 1st is the plate in the engine compartment, and then the glove box.
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Old 10-04-2014, 01:37 PM
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Welcome to the forum! The consecutive unit number being what it is, it most probably falls into the 1949 range. There should be a series of numbers/letters stamped into the firewall near the cowl seam. See if you can find them and post what you have there. They will identify your color code, build date, etc. mtflat has been keeping score on vins and dates for years. He may have a more definitive timeframe for your truck and others built at the St. Paul plant. But generally speaking, unit numbers closer to 300,000 is where the cutoff is between 1949 and 1950. Both years begin with 9, and the 8RC show V8, half ton. (F1)
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It is sandwiched between a pair of trucks built late August 1949. I don't know how quickly SP (Saint Paul) used their block of vin no's but that should get you in the ballpark.

Oh, and during these early years, Ford used the calendar year Jan-Dec as the model yr.
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:22 PM
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Okay. I was able to get the numbers/letters.
Here is how it reads:
3 SP 24H 1568 10 8 2

I took a picture of it too.
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Can someone help with my 1950 f1 stamp # sp612 184 9563 and there is a 15 stamped above that.
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Okay. I was able to get the numbers/letters.
Here is how it reads:
3 SP 24H 1568 10 8 2

I took a picture of it too.
Your truck was originally black (3)
Assembly plant Twin Cities (St. Paul) MN
Assembled 24 August, '49
Remaining numbers are plant specific for vehicle down the line, nothing we can define today.
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Can someone help with my 1950 f1 stamp # sp612 184 9563 and there is a 15 stamped above that.
Hi bigmark

Could you take another look? It seems you're missing some characters. See jhollinshead post above.

SP is same as his.

There should be a number or letter before that, and a number and letter after it. Also, the vin would help me establish the year. Some plants made running line changes so establishing the year is important. Thanks. A clear picture would be a big help also.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...1-numbers.html
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Sorry everyone first time with old trucks.It is a yellow 1950 ford f1 truck and the vehicle no. 98rc 379736.I looked and sanded there for more characters but could not find any.
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Sorry everyone first time with old trucks.It is a yellow 1950 ford f1 truck and the vehicle no. 98rc 379736.I looked and sanded there for more characters but could not find any.
Not a problem, just wish I could be more helpful.

I have in my data that 16 is the color code for yellow. I have no proof that is correct. I also show 15 as light gray, and again I have only truck owner's help to get that much info.

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sp612 184 9563

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Thanks for all the information! My father bought this in 1979 with no motor in it, and I have an LS1 that we are going to put it in this winter. Can't wait to see it moving again, and fast.
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To whomever can help,
This is my first post as I have just acquired my first truck, I found a southern beauty billed as a 1950 F 1, I don't know much about it except that it appears to be fairly complete, this is the data I know and I would very much appreciate it if anyone can help me decode the id's I found
Vin: 97HC259276 (found on the title)
21C and under this 5086B (found stamped on front crossmember near right front mtr mnt)
P4ND75 and under this M 4285 (found stamped on firewall behind left hood hinge)
87HC double ended arrow 70087 (found stamped on trany)
truck is a short bed with a raised panel tailgate
flathead V8 with a 3 speed on the floor non-synchro
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To whomever can help,
This is my first post as I have just acquired my first truck, I found a southern beauty billed as a 1950 F 1, I don't know much about it except that it appears to be fairly complete, this is the data I know and I would very much appreciate it if anyone can help me decode the id's I found
Vin: 97HC259276 (found on the title)
21C and under this 5086B (found stamped on front crossmember near right front mtr mnt)
P4ND75 and under this M 4285 (found stamped on firewall behind left hood hinge)
87HC double ended arrow 70087 (found stamped on trany)
truck is a short bed with a raised panel tailgate
flathead V8 with a 3 speed on the floor non-synchro
Welcome to the forum, and congratulations on your find!

Your serial number indicates it may have been a 1949 model F1 equipped with the 226 flathead 6 cylinder engine. It was common back in those days to title trucks as the year sold, so if it was a late built 49 that didn't sell until 1950, that could explain the year discrepancy.

The 21C number found on the crossmember is a part number for the particular piece of frame. It has no bearing on serial numbers or identification.

The numbers stamped on the firewall will need to be decoded by someone other than me. Those typically contain the color code, assembly plant, date of assembly and other internal plant coding. But they are not in a sequence that makes sense to me. You might double check those.

The transmission number indicates to me it came from a 1948 F1 and is not original to the truck on your title, if in fact the title matches your truck. The frame serial number may be found on top of the right side frame rail, near the motor mount. You might see if you can find that. There may also be (should be) a plate inside the glove box door with identification, too.
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