1948-1960: 1949/1950 VIN # Cut off

[mercury_kid]

My truck is interesting because it is a Canadian truck, its a 1950 F-47. (In otherwords a Canadian F-1) Serial-BD83H50-332211 Bed-Flat Panel (Original) Three Speed on the floor No number directly stamped into the firewall.

[mercury_kid]

I am 15 and I am new to the site and I have had this truck for exactly a year now and when I was 11 I also bought a 1948 and 1949 Mercury M-105. I am pretty sure I know the majority of the deal with this truck I have recently been looking for some paint to do some touch ups and I am having trouble finding the proper information to get the same color as the original. If anybody could decode all this for me, especially the paint it would be greatly appreciated.

Engine-OEE-2624 Model-BD83 Trim-16

Paint-41(I believe it is called Strata Blue) Body-JDC50-1654-25047

I also noticed that the engine in this truck has been rebuilt by Ford in Edmonton and I'm not sure if they may have altered the plate on the firewall or not.Thanks again.

[Canarsie Kid]

See attached link for color information.

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Canarsie Kid

[9299Fords]

Has the spread sheet ever been completed with all the vin's and such? Has the early and late 50's seperation number been found?

Here is my pickup.

Year: 1950
Vin (ser#) : 98RD 426907 KC
Bed : Raised panel
No engine or Tranny when aquired
Firewall # A KC140 47 They punched this sucker so hard it is dented in
Tail Gate : Cursive lettering for ford label - I don't know what year they changed to block letters

I must have missed the color for #47 ... ??

[AK50]

Texan,
1) 1950 F1
2) 98RC322598 (stamped on plate on firewall) 322598* (stamped on frame rt front)
3) not 100% sure of differenes...
4) original
5) not sure... very dirty right now
6) floor 3-speed with reverse lockout
7) serial# 98RC322598 LOU

Thanks.... Oh! a friend and I fired the F1 up tonight!!!

[four8fordf1]

1 - 1949
2 - VIN # 97HC * 210165 * SP
3 - Bed - Raised Panel
4 - Is this the original bed, Yes
5 - Transmission (Four Speed)
6 - Floor shift
7 - # SP 2E 400346

? SP=St. Paul, this truck came out of North Dakota so that makes sense.
? HC=Six Cyl. Is this correct
? 97=What What does the 97 stand for
? 2H=2nd of May From this post, truck must have been assembled May 2nd
? 400346 On the fire wall, what do these number decode to

[texan2004]

Originally Posted by four8fordf1

1 - 1949
2 - VIN # 97HC * 210165 * SP
3 - Bed - Raised Panel
4 - Is this the original bed, Yes
5 - Transmission (Four Speed)
6 - Floor shift
7 - # SP 2E 400346

? SP=St. Paul, this truck came out of North Dakota so that makes sense.
? HC=Six Cyl. Is this correct
? 97=What What does the 97 stand for
? 2H=2nd of May From this post, truck must have been assembled May 2nd
? 400346 On the fire wall, what do these number decode to

You are pretty close.

The 9 = 1949/50 model year
7H = Flathead 6
C = 1/2 Ton F1.

210165 = Sequence Number. Based on the number, pretty safe bet it's a 49

SP = Saint Paul, MN Assembly Plant

# SP 2E 400346

The firewall numbers from St. Paul are seem to lack consistency. I've seen the paint code put in three different locations. I've seen the date in front of the month letter (E in your case) and behind it. Is there a number in front of the SP in the firewall stamp? If the spacing is as you show, I would agree that the build date was May 2, 1949. Do you know what color your truck was originally?

[four8fordf1]

Originally Posted by texan2004

You are pretty close.

The 9 = 1949/50 model year
7H = Flathead 6
C = 1/2 Ton F1.

210165 = Sequence Number. Based on the number, pretty safe bet it's a 49

SP = Saint Paul, MN Assembly Plant

# SP 2E 400346

The firewall numbers from St. Paul are seem to lack consistency. I've seen the paint code put in three different locations. I've seen the date in front of the month letter (E in your case) and behind it. Is there a number in front of the SP in the firewall stamp? If the spacing is as you show, I would agree that the build date was May 2, 1949. Do you know what color your truck was originally?

I finally got back to looking at the firewall numbers and there just are not any other numbers other then the ones I provided. The truck is Red now, but has been painted and I don't know the orginal color. The truck belonged to my uncle, and I thought it was Blue back in the 80's when he first got it. I will check with him in a couple of weeks when I get out to see him.

Regards,
Jerry Johnson

[steche]

Maybe someone could please help me out. My dad is 72 and wants to sell his 1964 Ford F100. Can anyone give me some direction as to where to find out the value and where to advertise it for sale besides E-Bay? I will advertise it also on the classifieds here after I learn the value of it. The truck is a 6 cylinder 3 speed with the shifter on the floor. Truck has the original 6 door tool box and the engine was rebuilt with an Eddie Bauer engine. Truck is all original, and has no modifications. My dad says he is to old to restore.

[havi]

Originally Posted by 48ATOY

1948 f-1
87HY-121259
model 8HC
with spring overloads
Stake bed original
4 spd
floor shift
all tags read same
hope info helps Joe

Gentleman, my truck is the same thing. I have a title, and it says: 48 Ford 8RY10222
The frame is stamped: 88RY10222. It has on the bell housing: 88RY10222 (Y is stamped backwards, lol) glove box door: Engine No.____ 88RY10222, below that it says 8RC. It has 21C spring hangers. It has a 114" wb. It has overload springs, and 5 lug axles. It didn't come with a box, and running boards. I see no signs of cutting the frame, which I must say the frame is pretty clean. Also, the engine has 8BA on the heads, the pass. side has A12 1 on a rivet tag above it, and the dr. side has only 8BA. The block has A1113 on the back on top. My thoughts are this truck is an anomoly for a '48 F1, but has a 1951 engine replacement. After reading about his F1 being a stake truck, I wonder if mine was too. I would like to know for sure, as this may decide the truck's future and fate....especially when the bed I do have came from the other truck, which I may just go ahead and do instead. Any thoughts?

[havi]

Also on the firewall, the little tag has TC stamped in the upper right corner. It no doubt says TC and not KC. Perhaps TC stood for twin cities, but not sure. With everything else on this truck a bit different, anything is possible, I guess. No other markings were found. It does not have a wiper hole for the passenger side, but my other 1948 cab does with a chrome cover/cap.

[texan2004]

Havi,

Yours is not the first one that I have come across like this. I think that Chrisopher2 (also in MN and perhaps a Twin Cities truck) Has a 49 F3 where a C was stamped over with a Y.

I have a couple of other examples of F1's with F2 or F3 Vins. Also 48's.

I actually found VIN one here in Houston where there were two number numbers either transposed or they were off by 10 when comparing the VIV plate to the frame stamping. This seemed to have slipped by sometimes back then.

I'd say that if it walks like an F1 and quacks like an F1, it's probably an F1. I find the TC designation a bit unique. I haven't come across that before.

As far as I know, 48 was the first year they were coding VIN numbers. Yours is a very low VIN number (and thus a veery early 48) and perhpas from the first batch that they ran in St. Paul Could be that early on they used the TC desingation and soon into went to the SP designation for the plant. Interesting truck. Too bad the information on this stuff from Ford is lost. It would be interesting to know what was really going on back then.

[50fordf-1]

Here goes mine

1- registered 1950
2-97HC323111 -original flat v-8 with yellow painted "R" on firewall
3-flat bed panel
4-original bed
5-4-speed non syncro spur gear
6- floor shift
7-A KC20J127

Behind the gas tank on the inside back of the cab is stenciled 9-13-50

Also has marker behind regulator on firewall E-46

[havi]

Originally Posted by havi

took some pics of my 49 F6...er, uh, my uncle inlaws. He said I could still have it, along with the 49 F8 dump. I didn't get the F8 info, but here's the F62H TH238923 it's a flathead 8, w/hoses mounted to the front of the heads, not the middle. It's also a floor shift. No bed.

For posterity sake, I finally got the F8 info:
Engine #: 88EQ (or O)-17961
Model #: 8E9QH
plant code: HF

[texan2004]

Any stampings on the firewall?