1948-1960: 1949/1950 VIN # Cut off

[50 F1]

I just sent a posting saying only the NR was added to my VIN on the firewall, then I looked on the driver's side and found a very light stamping of this info: E NR 22 J 112 There could be a code before the E but my new voltage regulator is covering that area. Thanks again for any help in understanding this. Herb

[jeffh]

Originally Posted by 50 F1

...Also, since I'm new, can you suggest parts houses for simple things like oil plug gaskets, oil filters, air cleaners (whole unit with filter), etc.

Most all of the catalog places carry those parts, but I've also had success with my local NAPA and Carquest stores. You may have to wait a day for them to get the part from the warehouse.

[mtflat]

Originally Posted by 50 F1

I'm a newbie -- needing info. My VIN per your questions is:
1. 1950
2. 98 RC 497821
3. Flat panel bed (with boards underneath)
4. Likely original, yet unknown
5. three speed, non-synchro 1st-Rev
6. Floor shifter
7. same as above with *NR* added after "VIN"

Now, can you tell me anything about this truck? When, where built? Engine model is it "H" or "R" model?

Also, since I'm new, can you suggest parts houses for simple things like oil plug gaskets, oil filters, air cleaners (whole unit with filter), etc.

Thanks for any help you can offer. I'm curious what you are learning about VIN's...

Herb

Hi 50F1, welcome to FTE. Carl must be busy so this'll give you something to work on till he gets back here.

The 9 means it was built in 49 or 50. The 8R means it came with a 239 cid flathead V8 originally. 'C' means it was a half-ton rated. 497821 is the serial number and it is high enough to safely say it is a 50, in fact a late built 50. The NR is the designation for the Norfolk, VA assembly plant.

Firewall stamping: E is color and I don't know all the letter codes. Earlier a number was used in most plants, but by late 50 they were switching to letter codes for paint. NR again is for Norfolk. 22 J means it was assembled September 22, 1950. The 122 is the vehicle number down the assembly line at NR.

edit: there's Carl now........ how's that for timing?

[texan2004]

Herb,

What you have is a rather late 1950 F1 decode as follows:

98RC 497821 NR

9 = 1949/50 Model Year (Vin # will determine which)
8R = 239 c.i.d flathead V8 enigne
C = 1/2ton F1
497821 = Vin sequence #. This is a very late 1950. The highest VIN # I have come across thus far is 508885 so yours is definitely built towards the end. Hopefully we will find out exactly when later in this post.

NR = Norfolk, VA assembly plant

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Firewall/Cowl Stamping: E NR 22 J 112

E = the paint code for Vermillion red. You mentioned that you say something faint in from of it. Any chance this could be a P? Norfolk always stamped the letter "P" infron of the paint code. No other plant did this. If you have a way to confirm the original color of the truck I would appreciate the feedback confirming it was red.

NR = Norfolk, VA Assmbly Plant (Just a quick side note. This plant either did close recently or is preparing to close very soon.)

22 J = Sptember 22, 1950 build date (This happens to be my sister's birthday.)

112 = Some sort of plant specific sequence number. Never really bee able to figure this one out.

Hope this helps.

BTW - Where are you in NC? I grew up in Newport News, VA.

[ricardo sandoval]

I Recently Bought A F100 1960 No Transmision Or Motor For A $100 Dlls. A Want To Fixed, I Had The Papers There Is The Serial Number But In The Truck I Can't Finded, Where I Can Finded Besides The Fire Wall And The Glove Comparment.
Because Is And Old Truck In The Glove Comparment Is Blurry And I Can't Distinguise The Number

Thank You

[ricardo sandoval]

I Had A 1960 F100 And I Want To Know If Is Some Junk Yard Or Place Where I Can Find Parts For My Truck NEAR THE SAN DIEGO AREA

Thanks

[texan2004]

I'm rather certain the serial number should be stamped somewhere on the frame up in the engine compartment. I would also check the door pillar and the door itself on the driver's side. I'm not very familiar with the 1960 model year trucks. I would also suggest doing a google or yahoo search for Ford Truck VIN #'s and see what turns up. There are a couple of sites with VIN decoders that would cover 1960 model year trucks but I'm replying from work and don't have them saved on this machine as favorites for obvious reasons.

Can't help you with parts in San Diego. I might suggest you start a new thread for that. I'm sure you will find some help.

Good Luck.

[needhelp49]

truck 1949 bed raised

tranny 3 speed floor shift
vin 98 rc 267819
body number in firewall chh28l401j

[ricardo sandoval]

I'm Going To Check The Frame And The Door
Thanks I Keep You Posted Texan 2004

[texan2004]

Originally Posted by needhelp49

truck 1949 bed raised

tranny 3 speed floor shift
vin 98 rc 267819
body number in firewall chh28l401j

9 = 1949/50 Probably a late 49
8R = Flathead V8 - 239 c.i.d.
C = 1/2 ton
267819 = Vin sequence #

CHH28L401J

CH = Chicaog Assembly Plat
H = Color Code = I belive Palasaides Green. Would be very hepful if you could get me a pciture of anythin that may still show the original color. Example - overspray behind the seat, behind the headliner, under the dash, egine compartment. If it's the original paint. all the better. this is one color code I have not yet been able to confirm.
28L = November 28, 1949 build date. This one is interesting in that I have another Chicago truck with a slightly higher VIN # but an earlier build date. Seel below:

VIN # 98RC 272520
Build Date Code = 14L = November 14, 1949
Assembly Plant = Chicago
Body Style = Panel Truck

This one wsa a panel truck which may explain the date discrepency. If that's the case, I learned somethin new today. I do know that the 6-cylinders and the V-8's used different sets of sequential numbers meaing that a 6-cylinder could have a higher VIN # that a V8 truck but may have been built much earlier. Stands to reason that this could ahve also been the case with Panel trucks versus pick-ups.

401J = Some sort of plant specific sequence number best we can tell.

BY the way, I made some ssumptions with your firewall stamp number. Namely that what I identified as an "L" is an "L". It helps if you can provide these letters as Upper Case letters for clarity.

Hope the information is helpful and anything you can provide regarding the original color would be a big help.

Thanks,

Carl G.

[gdgerland]

1. 1950 F-1
2. VIN # 98RC323463 Branch MP (Data plate on firewall)
3. Bed = Raised panel ( I think) can see a line running along bed, humped over wheels. Fenders are off and in bed.
4. Unknown, but looks orig.
5. 3-speed
6. Floor shift
7. MPC8157B346 (stamped in firewall)
8. Engine # 878C139835 Model 8HC (data plate on inside of glovebox door)

Any more questions, please let me know.

[needhelp49]

i posted a pic off the color i found under a hood hinge and a pic off the #s on the firewall in my galleires

[Canarsie Kid]

The serial numbers for the 1948 pick up start at 88RC-101 and run to 88RC-139262. The first 8 is the model year (1948), the next 8 and the R mean 8-cyl, and the C means the half-ton class. Of the three years of the Bonus Built series, the 1948 is the easiest to identify. The 1949 trucks started with 98RC-7388 and up, and the 1950 models continued the 1949 serial numbers.

Besides the serial numbers, some subtle differences between 1948, 1949 and 1950 F-1 models may help. 1948, the wheels were painted the body color, 1949 the wheels were painted black, the vent window bar was chrome, black in 1949 and the grille bars had a small red pinstripe in 1948, which was deleted in 1949. The F Series emblem on the cowl was die cast and chromed on the 1949 and stampled SS on late '49's and all 50's.

Hope this helps.

[mtflat]

Originally Posted by Canarsie Kid

The serial numbers for the 1948 pick up start at 88RC-101 and run to 88RC-139262. The first 8 is the model year (1948), the next 8 and the R mean 8-cyl, and the C means the half-ton class. Of the three years of the Bonus Built series, the 1948 is the easiest to identify. The 1949 trucks started with 98RC-7388 and up, and the 1950 models continued the 1949 serial numbers.

Besides the serial numbers, some subtle differences between 1948, 1949 and 1950 F-1 models may help. 1948, the wheels were painted the body color, 1949 the wheels were painted black, the vent window bar was chrome, black in 1949 and the grille bars had a small red pinstripe in 1948, which was deleted in 1949. The F Series emblem on the cowl was die cast and chromed on the 1949 and stampled SS on late '49's and all 50's.

Hope this helps.

Hi kid! Welcome to FTE. Your info is mostly right, but not all. The 49's picked up the serial numbers where the 48's left off. They didn't start over.

Your second paragraph has the general info, but Henry included as many exceptions to the rule as he did rules........ so it's all sorta-kinda. The book you're quoting isn't one of the most accurate out there, but it's a starting place. Stick around for the ride - it gets interesting!

[texan2004]

Originally Posted by needhelp49

i posted a pic off the color i found under a hood hinge and a pic off the #s on the firewall in my galleires

Thank you very much. That is certainly Palisades Green and this is the third one. Paint Code "H" officially confirmed,