I think you are both correct. 17C is what it looks like to me. Hope you have some Irish blood because your truck as born on Saint Patricks Day.
Now to the paint code. Certainly an 8 as you have reported previously. I have not seen this one before. I also don't know what paint codes 5 and paint code 10 are for either. I have at least two examples each of both of those. You truck looks like it was a originally Palisades Green from the firewall stamping photo.
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I think you are both correct. 17C is what it looks like to me. Hope you have some Irish blood because your truck as born on Saint Patricks Day.
I'm not Irish, but my truck certainly is tempermental enough to be. Looks like I need to buy a cake this weekend.
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Now to the paint code. Certainly an 8 as you have reported previously. I have not seen this one before. I also don't know what paint codes 5 and paint code 10 are for either. I have at least two examples each of both of those. You truck looks like it was a originally Palisades Green from the firewall stamping photo.
Interesting story here. I know the truck was repainted at some point, close to but not exactly the original color.
You can't really tell from the picture, but the outside of the hood (and body) are slightly different than the underside of the hood, maybe a little lighter and more yellowish. For some reason the firewall was painted a medium blue sometime. The VIN plate above the battery was painted over and you can tell where the voltage regulater used to be located. I really wish this old girl could talk...
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I'd wait another month or so on the cake. Totally off topic but St. Patrick's day was the day my parents went on their first date so it's a little special for this Swede.
Back to the paint for a minute. The firewall is usually a pretty good indication of the original color but if I understand what you are saying, you think it was repainted at some point. Interesting. What color is the metal inside the cab? Has that been repainted? If so, you might check some of the hard to get at spots where there may have been some overspray from the original paint like under thte dash, under the headliner, behind the gas tank, etc. Also check between the cab and the bed. There were two greens. Meadow Green which was a dark green almost like a Hunter Green today and Palisades Green whihc was closer to a Pea Green or Teal. I'm not an interior decorator so some may choose to dispute my analogies but hopefuly you get the point. If you check George's site where you pulled the 51/52 VIN #'s, he has samples of the original paint that come up on screen and print out pretty well. I wish I had been this diligent about trying to get the colors for paint codes 5 and 10. PErhaps I can fire off some PM's to the owners that reported these numbers this weekend for some help with this. It may help narrow yours down through process of elimination.
BTW - if I neglected to mention it earlier, KC, for whatever reason, continued to use numbers as paint codes for most of 1950 though in late 1950 (3rd or 4th quarter, they did eventually convert to the letter system that most everyone else switched to at the beginning of 1950. Richmond, CA used number for paint codes for all of 1950 from what I can tell.
Again, thanks for helping with this.
Carl
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On the pict of the cowl stamping it almost looks like a lighter shade is present where it's chipped? Lower right.
Is there any color under the old voltage regulator location. It doesn't look like that was repainted.....
The flange on the hood where there should be a rubber seal looks almost yellow (behind the latch mech) My 48 is an assortment of parts. Sleuthing is part of the rebuild process, right?
Got the truck off the trailer finnaly got the hood off and starting tear down. the vin stamped on the firewall reads 98RC*385996*CH. It has a flat V8 with a floor shift. Not sure what you mean by raised panels in the bed however it does have a metal floor in the bed. It was originally green with green interior.
9 = 1949/50
8R = 239 c.i.d. Flathaed V8
C = F1 model 1/2 ton
385996 = Vin Sequence #. Based on this number, your truck is a 50.
CH = Chicago Assembly Plant.
The later model 50's had slta sides with square stake pockets. The earlier 50 's had a set of raised impressions formed into the side f the bed panels, The rear fenders actually had a little joggle to accomodate the raised portion of the bed side panel.
The metal in the bed floor that you see is actually a liner. Look under the bed and it should be wood. Whne folks restore these trucks, they rarely re-install the metal liner. Not sure why but they don't. It's a bit or a pain to install and the wood looks pretty nice I guess,
If you could, please take a look at the firewall in the engine bay. There should be another set of numbers stamped into the firewall or one the cowl, just above the firewall to cowl seam. this is not the VIN # but some plant coded information that Ford stamped into the firewall area. We may be able to tell you what day your truck was built and what the original color was. We are trying to collect information based on these firewall stampings. Would really appreciate it if you could provide these numbers as well.
BTW - where are you in Texas. I'm right outside of Houston. Would love to see some pictures of your truck as well.
Also, I have a truck 98RC 386906 in my collection. It was a panel truck.
Carl G.
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will look at the firewall to try to find stamping. got the front clip off today so should be able to find tomorrow. Im in Corpus Im the one that bought the truck in SA. Did you get the engine photos? A 50 oh well basically same as 49. I will look under bed to see if wood is there I think I would rather have the wood when it is done it looks so much better
2 = Vermillion Red
CH = Chicago Assembly Plant. Wonder how in the world that truck made it's way down here??
31E = May 31 build date
91J = Is it possible that J is some digit like a "0"? Anyway, these characters ar some sort of plant specific sequence #. Never really figured out what they mean.
Appreciate you providing the information. I will be in touch on the other item we discussed via e-mail.
Carl G.
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Sorry it's taken so long to respond. Here is a closeup of where the voltage regulator was -- I didn't do the writing on it. This picture is a closeup of the roof, sans headliner of course. And this picture is a closeup of the passenger doorjamb. This last picture gives a good contrast between the "old" color and the "new" color.
These were all taken in the garage, with garage lights on, my shop light and the camera flash. Unfortunately none appear to be the same color, but it's the same via the naked eye. Carl, from your description I would agreet that this is Pallisades Green -- it sure isn't the darker green.
Regarding St. Patty's Day, I guess I'm ready for spring to get here...
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