Has anyone did an engine swap involving a Big Block 460 into a 99-Up Ford Superduty. I have installed a 05 Cummins 600 in a 2003 F-350 no problem. Is there any engine swap kits available? and Headers for 460 into Superduty. I should have trialed a 460 into that truck before the permanent install of the Cummins. Ford should have offered a "Big Dog" F-350, a Mass Aired, Coil per cyl, Roller cammed and stroked Big Block Ford 490 and a Dana 80 rear axle to battle the GM 8.1. I tried to out power a GM 8.1 (496 CID) with a 05 V-10 F-350 3Valve in a pull-off and lost.

 

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Are you talking about a truck pull or a tug off war. Are you sure it wasnt something else that made you loose. A 3v-V-10 has way more power then either a 8.1 GM truck or a 460. Why would youwanna do this to a new truck. Pulloffs prove nothing. It doesnt make one truck better then the other.

 

Uh, the 8.1L is a roach. Most of the trucks built at Flint Assembly (the assembly plant for the Silveado HD's) are either the Durasux diesel or the 6.0L. Hardly no one springs for the 8.1L because the power isn't that muck greater than the 6.0L and it sucks gas like nothing else on the road.

 

The GM 8.1L isn't even comparable to the 3V V10. A tug of war doesn't prove squat.

 

Yep.

Tug-of-wars prove traction, and weight moreso than horsepower. I used to participate in "on the spot amateur" tug of wars with my old 81 crewcab, and I'd yank just about everything my way no problem. See, my hitch was always much higher than competitors, so even if they had a highly modified turbo diesel dually of any brand, they want backwards. My pulling them resulted in less traction for them, and more traction for me, since my hitch was significatly higher.

I had a 460 with a "neat" cam, nothing too wild.

 

Tug of wars porove zip. I had an 83 F150 302 that beat an 86 F250 460. I just sat on the brakes until he broke traction and then pulled him around the school. Proved nothing about the capabilities of the 2 trucks.

I have owned two 460's and one V10. I'll never go back to push rods again. My V10 is dead smooth, tons of power, and has quiet frequently gotten 14-15mpg on the highway.

 

Oh well, no offense to the V-10. These are great motors, however we have faced a few repeated inconveniences with our 2002 F-550 4x4 Wrecker with a Century 612, some of those problems I encountered include spark plugs blowing out of the cyl head ( 4 times ) moisture proned spark plug boots, dampener worked loose, and head gasket failure without overheating, and finally lost a rod at about 70k. Our other wrecker is a 97 F-450XLT Quigley 4x4 with a Century 612 equipped with OBD II Mass Aired 7.5 460, has no major problems at 200k, only problems encountered were cracked exhaust manifolds at 130k and a Clutch, fuel pump but switched fuel tank to get back. This truck towed the 02' 550 about a dozen times. The 97 got towed once for the clutch failure. Only Mods on the 97 since new were 160 stat, synthetic oil, 8qt pan, 0 degree chain, Comp Cams X256, diesel radiator/support, cat removal, 4 inch diesel Exhaust.

The 05' truck was purchased as a bank repo, body is trashed (next project truck) justifies the tug-o-war. But I have good news, he then said he were able to drag the Cummins converted F-350, I said "Shoots!" we then went at it again with the 03 F-350 w/ 5.9 Cummins 600, TST Module set to 10, BD Twins, 125 injectors, 5inch exhaust equipped/ Baumann controlled ATS Triple Locked 4R100, pulled that 8.1 / Allison with no effort. It doesnt prove anything but he provoked it.

 

Haha, at least your having fun.

 

A friend of mine just experienced this... one plug worked loose and one shot out (literally). Ford's having issues replacing the head because the warehouse supposively is down south in or near new orleans.

His dealer said they never heard of this before...

 

That is some of the reasons I am considering in installing a Mass Aired 460 into a Superduty. I never experienced spark plug woes, let alone blown head gasket and engine failure in a low mileage and well maintained engine before. Our V-10 has been serviced with the best fluids available and equipped with both temperature and oil pressure alerts. I am however quite concerned with Ford going with smaller displacement engines. Bottom line is that smaller engines has to work a lot harder due to higher cylinder pressures to make the same power as a large displacement engine. I have a friend that has a 94 F-350 that sees severe abuse with 250k and minimal oil changes and no air filter and no coolant, water only that still runs strong. Long lived the awesome Iron Duke 460.

By the way hows your twin turbo 460 project coming along? Should be one awesome ride!

 

I don't quiet understand your reasoning about smaller displacement engines working harder. My V10 turns fewer RPMS to get the same job done that my 460 used to do. It gets better economy while turning fewer RPMS also. Not sure how that is working harder, hmmm.

It is a very small percentage of V10's that have had the spark plug blow out problem. Ford knows all about it. It is too few threads in the head to hold the spark plug. All Ford needs to do is change their service intervaule for the plugs or put something in the owners manual saying to retorgue the plugs every 20-30,000 miles.

A few V10's might blow a plug. But every single 460 I owned or drove had broken exhaust manifold studs. I had a 460 with a dead cyl. for no reason, had half the compression of anyother cyl.