7.3-1.3=6.0lemon(+.4)=nightmare(+.9)=rightwherewestart edfrom=7.3 Come on ford stay with what is awesome and works just fine. Easy to work with, minor tweaks and it runs just as good as the 6.0 on its best day...lol

 

Twin turbos, 4v heads and all that on the 7.3, sure would be quick.

 

whew that would be killer,,,oooh ohhh banks is already workin on that mod or might already have the kit for the 7.3 but 4v wheww killllllerrrrr

 

Oh yes.

Taking a step back in technology will really help.

If the cost of technology is unforseen glitches and having to learn new knowledge...which is all that it is....then so be it.

I am the biggest fan of the 6.0 you will probably meet, but I am more than willing to let it die for something potentially better. I look forward to it and intend on buying one when they debut...if it has problems, Ford or myself will fix it and we will both learn from the experience. If not, then great I gladly welcomed the 6.0 in place of the 7.3, and even if you consider it a failure as an engine (which it is not) it still placed several new technologies into the market that will certainly help in making the 4th Generation Powerstrokes even better. I gladly welcome the 6.4 likewise, and correspondingly whatever else comes next. Nothing will ever improve if you aren't willing to allow change and experimentation. Think back at the disaster the 7.3 was when it was debuted in 1994; and think back at all the people hopefully wishing that the IDI engines would be produced again because the Powerstroke was a "unreliable peice of crap". If everyone had the "lets just go back to the way it was mentality" we would still be driving 6.9 liter IDI diesels, and the dearly loved 7.3 Powerstroke would have never existed.

What is the point in being blantantly and blindly loyal to a particular vehicle brand, type, or engine...even when it is outdated?

 

Well put Matt. As you know I'm also a huge fan of the 6.o psd. Although i have never owned a 7.3 psd i have drivn many of them in my line of work, and i can honestly saw that mod for mod, a 6.0psd will leave a 7.3 in a black cloud. The technology behind this engine leaves us with something huge to look forward to in the new 6.4.

 

Well, the 7.3 could easily surpass what the 6.0 does with all the technology put into it. Just like the cummins, the 12v was a great motor. They switched to 24v and its even better. Slap some new 4v heads and twin turbos on it and great, you have a powerplant of the future.

Just because its new doesn't make it better. More technology can -sometimes- get in the way when its not all worked out properly. I agree with you that now that all the bugs are worked out of the 6.0 its a great engine. But all the money Ford used on it to make it what it is now, could have easily been used to update the 7.3 while this 6.4 was in development, or while more updates for the 7.3 were going on.

Oh well, i just hope this new 6.4 is everything it sounds like it is going to be, it sounds like it will be awesome with 400? hp and over 700? tq. Impressive.

 

Hindsight is always 20-20. It's not always so cut and dried if you are the person making the decisions.

IMO Ford Engineering did the best they could with the 6.0 in the timeframe upper management put upon them.

Please go thank your local branch of the EPA for your troubles if you have a crappy 6.0.

As for keeping the 7.3 liter with 4 valve heads, there is essentially no difference in that and going to the 6.0. The displacement was lowered to get mass pollutant flow down, and the new technology implemented was enough (and more) to make up for the loss in power due to lower displacement. Both engines are quite similar in operation...and it has been fairly accepted now that the bottom end internals of the 6.0 are superior to that of the 7.3. The Cummins is a great motor as far as physical mechanics are concerned, and so is the 6.0. Overall the 6.0 is far more robust in design, with the exception of the cylinder head fastening. Go compare a block casting of each side by side.

The only reason to keep the 7.3 period is because some people don't like change...at all.

 

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IMO Ford Engineering did the.............
I knew it wouldn't last
Opinions are heathy dialogue when based on knowledge.

 

LOL...thats it, Tim, rub it in...

Things have calmed back down in the past few months, and being that I have the ability to be a loud-mouth by nature I just can't pass up the opportunity when it arises

I have to be careful though because sometimes my real opinions, if voiced, would get me booted out of here pretty quickly

 

Sometimes, it's just all in the delivery. But I know what you mean. At times I need to bite my tongue. Good to see your back in the saddle.

 

I think the internet and the media has done a # on the 6.0. I like mine so much, I'm getting another. I just hope I don't hate myself when the 6.4TT comes out.

 

I believe the introduction of new technology and design is a manufacturing necessity, sort of like if you're not going forward, you're going backwards.The same can be said of a lot of engines, i.e. 289, 302 ,351, 460 Fords, 283,327,350,427,454 chevy engines.Ofcourse its not true of all manufacturing,
i have yet to see much improvement in toilet paper

 

It does seem alot softer these days