Hi Everyone,

Just joined to find out if my local Ford dealer is trying to rip me off. I have a 2000 Expedition EB w/ power moonroof that is stuck in the open position. Dealer says that switch,motor, and track are all bad which seems to me to be a statistical impossibility. Wants $2200 to repair. Also says that the moonroof cannot be just closed and disconnected.

thoughts, help? anyone?

Chris

 

There should be some way to manually close it. Look at the owners manual for help. All Power roofs that I have seen, has a small trim cover hiding a bolt or something like that. All it takes is an allen wench or socket to crank on and close it.

 

Nothing in the owners manual. I checked, there is no access to the moonroof which is why it is so expensive. I am being charged $1200 for the removal of the ENTIRE headliner, and another $1000 for new motor and track.

Like your handle, another repair like this and I may change from haveaford to hadaford pretty quickly

Thanks

 

Hi and welcome to FTE! Be sure to read this to help you around this site: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=300691 There are also State Chapters located near the bottom of the main forum page.

That's too bad about your Expedition. I will move this to the Expedition forum where you will get more help.

See ya on the boards!

-Matt

 

Thanks a bunch.

It's disappointing because i have absolutely loved my Ford up until now. Even through all the recalls.

Hope to be a regular contributor. Thanks again for the assisstance.

 

My was a $1600 warranty repair. You *can* DC the cable and get it closed but it *probably* not stay shut. (You'll be able to push it open.)

If you choose to get into it yourself, it's a joy taking down the visors and headliners.

 

Thanks for the info, exactly what I wanted to know. Guess I'll bite the bullet, don't want to tackle removing the headliner myself, I would rather try to pull the tranny

 

The headliner is easier.

 

The headliner is easy! I have had mine out 2 times. The first time it took about 1 1/2 hrs to get it out. The second time it only took about 45 min. There should be an access in the headliner just behind the sunroof. It just clips into place. The motor is right under the access. But if not and you have to remove the entire headliner let me know.... I'll give you some advice. It's not as bad as it looks! Yes there are alot of peices to remove, but it's really not that bad!

 

I have recently had a little problem where you would have to keep pushing the button to open the roof. it used to open automaticly with just a push of the button it still close's okay. i am figuring it is probably a relay ?

 

Had the same problem. The Dealer charged $985. $600 of that was for a new Moonroof Assembly. There is a TSB on Moonroof rattle / Replacement service. It states that a mechanic should be able to completely replace the Moonroof in 2 hours.

 

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Hello, Do you know the TSB # and what year it effects? I had a 97 that I traded in June with a MR NO troubles for all 8 years.. Now have a 05 eb expy and this thread makes me curious.
Thanks

 

TSB 03-11-10

FORD: 2000-2003 EXPEDITION
2001-2003 F-150
2003 SUPER DUTY F SERIES
LINCOLN: 2000-2003 NAVIGATOR


ISSUE:
Some 2000-2003 Expedition/Navigator, 2001-2003 F-Series Under 8500, and 2003 F-Series over 8500 vehicles may exhibit a rattle from the roof opening panel (moonroof) area, a failure of the roof opening panel to open properly, or a water leak from the roof opening panel. This may be due to the water trough being separated from the trough guide on either side, as a result of a broken trough guide.

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I hava 1999 Navigator , there is a moonroof/window vent RELAY located behind the driver seat, inside the side panel . Relay is a SPDT type which used several places in the Navigator. It switches power in and out to the moonroof and vent electronics, on my 1999 the 12v IN is on the red/blk wire, the switched 12v out is on the pink wire of the relay. Pull relay out, and supply 12V from the battery to the pink wire - (this supplies power to the moonroof/vent assembles). This will test to see if this an issue with power going to the assembles , it will also demonstrate the actions of the assembles onced enerigized.

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