Clicking under dash - no start
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Clicking under dash - no start
A few weeks ago my 2001 F350 - 7.3 - started having problems starting. Mainly when I tried to start it after the truck had been sitting a for a few hours..
When I would turn the Key to the Run position I would hear a fast clicking sound under my dash. If I continued to turn the key to the start position the truck would crank but would not start.
I could turn the key back to the off position after hearing the clicking sound and then back to the on position a few times until it didn't make the clicking sound - then the truck would start..
This went on for about 2 - 3 weeks until one day it would click everytime I turned on the key. Being stuck at Work - after work hours I decided to find this click sound and Do something..
The clicking was coming from under my dash - just under the Radio. I ended up pulling the Panel that exposes your fuse panel - then under the AC and Radio there is a cluster of wires plugged into 3 relays. 2 small relays and 1 large.
When I would try to start the engine I could feel the clicking sound I heard from those relays..
I squeezed on the three relays and tried to start the engine and it worked. However the next day I still had the clicking sound and no start..
I took the 2 smaller relays (both being the same - part # F57B-14B192-AA) and swapped them with each other. Putting the Top on into the bottom slot and bla bla bla.
No more clicking when I try to start my truck - no more problem..
I haven't seen anything else start to fail from this (so far).
My question is - does anyone know what those relays control?
My point is - if anyone else has this problem - this worked for me..
When I would turn the Key to the Run position I would hear a fast clicking sound under my dash. If I continued to turn the key to the start position the truck would crank but would not start.
I could turn the key back to the off position after hearing the clicking sound and then back to the on position a few times until it didn't make the clicking sound - then the truck would start..
This went on for about 2 - 3 weeks until one day it would click everytime I turned on the key. Being stuck at Work - after work hours I decided to find this click sound and Do something..
The clicking was coming from under my dash - just under the Radio. I ended up pulling the Panel that exposes your fuse panel - then under the AC and Radio there is a cluster of wires plugged into 3 relays. 2 small relays and 1 large.
When I would try to start the engine I could feel the clicking sound I heard from those relays..
I squeezed on the three relays and tried to start the engine and it worked. However the next day I still had the clicking sound and no start..
I took the 2 smaller relays (both being the same - part # F57B-14B192-AA) and swapped them with each other. Putting the Top on into the bottom slot and bla bla bla.
No more clicking when I try to start my truck - no more problem..
I haven't seen anything else start to fail from this (so far).
My question is - does anyone know what those relays control?
My point is - if anyone else has this problem - this worked for me..
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Originally Posted by jpkinard
A few weeks ago my 2001 F350 - 7.3 - started having problems starting. Mainly when I tried to start it after the truck had been sitting a for a few hours..
When I would turn the Key to the Run position I would hear a fast clicking sound under my dash. If I continued to turn the key to the start position the truck would crank but would not start.
I could turn the key back to the off position after hearing the clicking sound and then back to the on position a few times until it didn't make the clicking sound - then the truck would start..
This went on for about 2 - 3 weeks until one day it would click everytime I turned on the key. Being stuck at Work - after work hours I decided to find this click sound and Do something..
The clicking was coming from under my dash - just under the Radio. I ended up pulling the Panel that exposes your fuse panel - then under the AC and Radio there is a cluster of wires plugged into 3 relays. 2 small relays and 1 large.
When I would try to start the engine I could feel the clicking sound I heard from those relays..
I squeezed on the three relays and tried to start the engine and it worked. However the next day I still had the clicking sound and no start..
I took the 2 smaller relays (both being the same - part # F57B-14B192-AA) and swapped them with each other. Putting the Top on into the bottom slot and bla bla bla.
No more clicking when I try to start my truck - no more problem..
I haven't seen anything else start to fail from this (so far).
My question is - does anyone know what those relays control?
My point is - if anyone else has this problem - this worked for me..
When I would turn the Key to the Run position I would hear a fast clicking sound under my dash. If I continued to turn the key to the start position the truck would crank but would not start.
I could turn the key back to the off position after hearing the clicking sound and then back to the on position a few times until it didn't make the clicking sound - then the truck would start..
This went on for about 2 - 3 weeks until one day it would click everytime I turned on the key. Being stuck at Work - after work hours I decided to find this click sound and Do something..
The clicking was coming from under my dash - just under the Radio. I ended up pulling the Panel that exposes your fuse panel - then under the AC and Radio there is a cluster of wires plugged into 3 relays. 2 small relays and 1 large.
When I would try to start the engine I could feel the clicking sound I heard from those relays..
I squeezed on the three relays and tried to start the engine and it worked. However the next day I still had the clicking sound and no start..
I took the 2 smaller relays (both being the same - part # F57B-14B192-AA) and swapped them with each other. Putting the Top on into the bottom slot and bla bla bla.
No more clicking when I try to start my truck - no more problem..
I haven't seen anything else start to fail from this (so far).
My question is - does anyone know what those relays control?
My point is - if anyone else has this problem - this worked for me..
I think you have a battery problem.......when they get low...... relays will start chattering. I'd have the batteries load tested. Just a thought.
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I have heard the same thing after, I replaced the batteries, starter, starter relay, and glow plug relay. My truck was not turning over like it should have. I first replaced the batteries, it was a little better but still was right. I went and bought a new starter. After I replaced starter, I started hearing the clicking sound like you discribe in your post, but my starting (slow turning over) issue was fixed after I put the new starter on. I then went and bought the Starter Relay and Glow Plug Relay. I can still hear the clicking every once in a while, but it has never failed to start.
#7
Thanks all for the reply back.
Being in the Phoenix Az area my batterys get replaced once a year (like it or not). something about the heat I guess kills them.
I will however check my battery connections and stuff - as well replace the relays (or at least buy a backup set just in case).
I had noticed that my starting seems to be a little slower than normal.
Thanks again for the inputs.
Being in the Phoenix Az area my batterys get replaced once a year (like it or not). something about the heat I guess kills them.
I will however check my battery connections and stuff - as well replace the relays (or at least buy a backup set just in case).
I had noticed that my starting seems to be a little slower than normal.
Thanks again for the inputs.
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i have also noticed slower cranking and had the relay clicking but it was a relay under the hood in the power distrubing box...every now and then my truck would just crank for a half second and start clicking and sometimes it wont be able to get jumped off...we checked for a draw and ended up having a 4 amp draw...i pulled each fuse out and even unpluged my remote start/keyless entry/alarm and nothing still a 4 amp draw...i pull the relay that is clicking and switch it with another and it still clicks in the original position even with the other relay...i just dont know
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Originally Posted by 96ford4x4turbodiesel
i have also noticed slower cranking and had the relay clicking but it was a relay under the hood in the power distrubing box...every now and then my truck would just crank for a half second and start clicking and sometimes it wont be able to get jumped off...we checked for a draw and ended up having a 4 amp draw...i pulled each fuse out and even unpluged my remote start/keyless entry/alarm and nothing still a 4 amp draw...i pull the relay that is clicking and switch it with another and it still clicks in the original position even with the other relay...i just dont know
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Bumping this old thread. I posted yesterday that I am not geting any fuel pressure. Putting a test light on the pump I was not getting juice to it. I got a tip hear to look for these relays. I got the radio ouf and found the three relays. The larger is obviously for the flasher since I can feel it while that is on. The other two I was told one was for the fuel pump, and not sure on the other. When I swapped them I still did not get fuel pressure. Anyone know what the other one is for so I can test that and see if the relay is working for that one? That way I can hopefully tell if it is two bad relays or bad wiring. I knopw my interior dome lights have never worked with the door coming open, so maybe it is a relay for that? Thanks in advance.
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Bumping this old thread. I posted yesterday that I am not geting any fuel pressure. Putting a test light on the pump I was not getting juice to it. I got a tip hear to look for these relays. I got the radio ouf and found the three relays. The larger is obviously for the flasher since I can feel it while that is on. The other two I was told one was for the fuel pump, and not sure on the other. When I swapped them I still did not get fuel pressure. Anyone know what the other one is for so I can test that and see if the relay is working for that one? That way I can hopefully tell if it is two bad relays or bad wiring. I knopw my interior dome lights have never worked with the door coming open, so maybe it is a relay for that? Thanks in advance.
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