Since a few folks are hell bent for leather to blame the 6.0 on downward Super Duty values I thought I would do a little research at Kelly Blue Book.
I used 2003 as the MY as the big three Ford engines were all available. All spec's were based on my truck so I wouldn't forget anything. Dead to rights even up...engines are the only difference...
Private Party Values:
V-10 $ 21,300
7.3 $ 26,200
6.0 $ 26,500
G M $ 26,900
Ram $ 25,600
First, I think it is interesting that the difference between the V -10 and either diesel is almost identical to the difference at new list price.
When you look at the competition you see that all diesel values seem to bunched pretty close together. Within a few hundred dollars of each other.
To me, this dispels the notion that the 6.0 is loosing value. And if it is, it is not attributable the what the bashers would call "junk" engines. Again, evidenced by diesel values across the board.
Now with all this said, I am not endorsing theses #'s as being carved in stone. As we all know the market is changing daily and on a regional level. Whatever the true value is in your town, the relationship between the vehicles should be the same.
I am sure I will be attacked on this but the criteria is unbiased and the #'s are the #'s.
Try it yourself.
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I don't sell trucks for a living, but I did recently sell my 99 Super Duty 7.3 to buy a new one. I didn't get what I originally thought I would, but I didn't give it away either. I don't think anyone questioned the quality of the truck or engine. I think the reason for dropping resale price of Super Dutys is because of:
1. High price of gas and diesel fuel causing more trucks to be put on the market and fewer people buy them right now. When was the last time you remember diesel costing more than premium gas?
2. Lot of existing Super Duty owners buying new Super Dutys, putting more used Super Dutys out there.
3. New Super Dutys selling cheap. You can now buy a new Super Duty as cheap as what you'd pay for a year old one.
They're not bad trucks. It's just a buyers market right now.
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2003 Escape V6
2001 22" One-Touch Kettle
2004 Large Big Green Egg
You'd think that as fuel prices continue to climb, those who really need a truck would be more inclined to go with the diesel for the improved fuel economy.
Even if diesel is uncharacteristically priced higher than regular right now, the diesel still gets the nod in most cases as its fuel mileage still more than makes up for that difference.
There are several guys at work with V10s and they almost cry when the hear the kind of mileage I'm getting. They like their truck but hate the sight of a gas station.
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2003 F-250 6.0 - 4x4 Lariat - with Torqshift automatic. Aftermarket: X-Monitor, Prodigy brake controller. Pull a 30' Weekend Warrior toy hauler - 10,000+ lbs .
You must also take into account the fact that there was an additional $1500 for the torque shift tranny. In that case they have dropped in value compared to the 7.3 . But even with my problems I would still rather have a problematic 6.0 than a 7.3 with the old automatic.
just my opinion.
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__________________ 2006 KR 6.0 4X4 Navigation SYS and 20" Wheels
Torque shift all the bells and even a whistle
2003 Desert Fox Toyhauler 28KS
2001 Super Crew Lariat F150
5.4 Auto 4X4
Past trucks 87,88,91,93,94,96,97,99,03 all Fords!!!!
You must also take into account the fact that there was an additional $1500 for the torque shift tranny. In that case they have dropped in value compared to the 7.3 . But even with my problems I would still rather have a problematic 6.0 than a 7.3 with the old automatic.
just my opinion.
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The 4R100 was also an option like the torqshift; they have always been standard with a manual. If I'm not mistaken the 4R100 was a 1200 dollar option in 2003MY with a 7.3, so there's only a 300 dollar difference.
Correct but the 6.0 was a 3500 mark up and the tranny was 1500 for a total of 5000. and when I bought mine (one of the first ones "call me stupid") Dec of 2002 they were 1500 over the 7.3 with the auto.
__________________ 2006 KR 6.0 4X4 Navigation SYS and 20" Wheels
Torque shift all the bells and even a whistle
2003 Desert Fox Toyhauler 28KS
2001 Super Crew Lariat F150
5.4 Auto 4X4
Past trucks 87,88,91,93,94,96,97,99,03 all Fords!!!!
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and the v-10
August 12, 2005 print this vehicle report
First off, I have not yet seen a Ford confirmation that it will be a 6.4 (probably will be from what we all have read here, though).
The bigger impact will be on '06 MY sales period, if the anticipated early '07 MY release actually happens.
IMO, the new engine will not drive down the used 6.0 or 7.3 market any more than we would expect to be normal. Fuel prices, however, will knock them all down a pretty big notch.
The so called soccer Mom's will get out of the trucks and SUV's and back into the higher mileage and more accommodating mini-vans and mini-SUV's. As stated before, this will certainly have an impact on used diesel truck pricing. More used diesels hitting the market but, not being picked off the lots.
Since we are on the subject...I can even see where typical 1/2 and 3/4 ton casual owners will forsake the BIG DAWG truck and rent or borrow one when they have a need.
Again, leaving more used trucks (gas and diesel) sitting on the lots.
In any case, we may see values diminish more than we like but, it will not be as a result of the 6.0 engine.
Just my honest opinion....of course.
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Hey Daryl...you finally hit 2,000 posts. I remember when you got excited about hitting 1,000.
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