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Old 05-17-2005, 09:36 PM
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Biodiesel in the 6.0L

With diesel prices on the rise here in WA State (roughly 2.70 a gallon), I was wondering if anyone has heard of anything on running biodiesel in their PSD. Biodiesel here is still 3 bucks a gallon but supposedly our governor is working to lower the cost by possibly 50 cents a gallon which would make it cheaper than the conventional diesel especially in the summer months. I'm not trying to be an environmentalist here, but if it is better for the environment and possibly cheaper than the conventional product why not use an energy source made here in the USA instead of foreign oil...Just wondering if any one has tried it yet and if the PSD runs alright on it.
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I'm on my second tank of B20 - so far, my truck loves it. Only about .05 more than Shell, and my mileage appears to be up. I'll run a couple of tanks of the B20, then back to my normal Shell to re-check mileage. Recent gains may be due to summer blends also. If the mileage holds as up, and I don't need to add Stanadyne, I'll be ahead of the game financially too.

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Isn't B20 a bit more then is suggested by Ford?
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i think that Biodeisel should be ok i know a guy that accidentinly filled up his PSD with gasoline and it ran(not the most pretty thing in the world but it ran none the less)
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Isn't B20 a bit more then is suggested by Ford?
About 4 times the concentration. If I recall, the manual says no more than B5. I don't think I'd put more than Ford says until it's out of warranty.
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Yes, it is more. Yes, its a slight risk, but I think bio is a great idea for many reasons, B20 is all that is available, and we have to start somewhere. I won't use it solely, but have to give it a shot to find out how well it works. It would be great if Colorado mandated B5 for all diesel, but that won't happen soon - maybe some % of it when ULSD comes out. Bottom line is we need some demand in order to generate supply, and then the corresponding broader availability and lower prices.

Regarding Ford selecting B5 as their threshold, I'd be willing to bet that has a generous insurance buffer built in to it. I'd be curious if they did any actual testing, and if so, what they found at various levels.

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Biodiesel

I've been running B2 for awhile and will go to B5 next tank. I buy it in bulk and have it delivered mixed with Amoco Premier Diesel. Truck runs better more quiet and mileage has improved.If your thinking of running it give it a try You wont regret it. Fords stand on the B5 is very conservative.I do know of a place in CA that has run B100 with no problems in a fleet of trucks.
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I'm doing my part to reduce our dependency on foreign oil and clean up the environment; my truck runs on 100% biodiesel made from soybean oil grown by U.S. farmers. What are you doing?
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?, What do you mean B2, B5, and B20, are these blends of Bio and diesel or what? I would like to try running Bio if it where available here in Central PA.
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?, What do you mean B2, B5, and B20, are these blends of Bio and diesel or what? I would like to try running Bio if it where available here in Central PA.
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B2 = 2% bio, 98% dino
B5 = 5% bio, 95% dino
B20 = 20% bio, 80% dino.

Ford only goes up to B5 because they don't have any control over the quality of bio diesel. If it's a crappy batch of bio mixed it with dino diesel, 5% of crap won't do that much if any harm. But 20% of crap may.
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At least they're (Ford) recognizing biodiesel to begin with. Any amount I feel is a progressive step. Too bad the nearest place for me to get it is over an hour away.
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?, What do you mean B2, B5, and B20, are these blends of Bio and diesel or what? I would like to try running Bio if it where available here in Central PA.
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http://www.biodiesel.org/
they list some the places selling Bio-Diesel also some interesting reading.
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Here is the supplier of what I've been trying. They seem to be pretty focused on the quality of their product:

http://www.gobluesun.com/
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How about filling your tank with turkey guts?

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Here in washington (seattle area) I heard that it went down to 2.70
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