Hey all, sorry for a lame question from a newbie but....Ive got a 92 f250 with a 460. It burns a bit of oil, about a quart every hundred miles or so. It also has lost compression in at least one cylinder. Any thoughts on Ametch Engine Restore? Does it work? Bad, good, or am I just throwin my money away? Im not expecting miracles, but if it helps Ill try it.
well lets put it this way i had a 99 jeep grand and it had about 99000 miles on it. it got about 15mpg and that sucked, so i went to autozone picked up some engine restore and some lucas fuel treatment and i got about 16mpg to 17mpg i dont know what did what, and im not a hard core wrench head like some people, but i could def. feel a difference just in the seat of my pants preformance.
To be honest, every single one of those "rebuild in a bottle" gimmicks is just that, a gimmick. They do NOTHING, in fact some break down your oil and could cause potentioal damage. Pouring a mirical susbstance into your engine does not help it at all, the stop leak stuff is also a scam. Believe me, I tried em all before I became a mechanic I thought they did something. Then when I rebuilt my first motor I reliazed how much of a scam they were. Think about it, how can some miracle susbstance help you gain compression? Engines do not operate on majic. Save your money and put it into some new rings, that WILL help compression.
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I used Engine restore in an old chevy that ended up with over .025" wall taper upon the rebuild, before that I put in the engine restore and it helped trementously. I know it's a crutch and won't fix the engine but it's a good no damn good band-aid. You just got to ask yourself if the $20 that you spend extra on every oil change is worth the cost of a newer or reman 460?
just fill her her full off 50 weight it will accomplish the same thing.those additives just make a mess inside your motor. wait till you have to rebuild and see
I used Engine restore in an old chevy that ended up with over .025" wall taper upon the rebuild, before that I put in the engine restore and it helped trementously. I know it's a crutch and won't fix the engine but it's a good no damn good band-aid. You just got to ask yourself if the $20 that you spend extra on every oil change is worth the cost of a newer or reman 460?
My $.02
Sean
And how exactly did it help? Did it stop leaking? Did it stop the oil burning? The $20 you wasted could be put towards some gas for the truck. The point is they are a scam and people that buy them are usually people that dont know thing one about engines. Do it once, do it right. Engines that are worn out need to be REBUILT, they dont need useless gimmicks to be poured in em.
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The compression went up from 115 +/- to 125 +/- and I went from using 1 quart every 150 miles to a quart every 350 miles. It didn't fix the oil that was going past the valve guides but it did fill some of the scratches in the cylinger wall evident of the copper in the scratches when we rebuilt the engine. First off I tried it as an experiment and didn't expect much, secondly by doing the math I saved a case of oil between oil changes (make that filter changes that's more or less what they were.), thirdly they saved a little face by not killing all of the misquitoes in the neighborhood, only when I would shift. There was a slight performance increase because of the more compression BTW I checked the compression about 500 miles after I put it in. I was in college at the time and the 20 dollars seemed to be better than parking my truck and wait for a rebuild. I'm not saying that oil additives are not gimics I am saying that this one is a better crutch than a feel good gimic. If you use the best oil and filters with real springs in them, change oil regularly your motor will last a whole lot longer that will cost you more as well and over the life of the motor it may even out.
The compression went up from 115 +/- to 125 +/- and I went from using 1 quart every 150 miles to a quart every 350 miles. It didn't fix the oil that was going past the valve guides but it did fill some of the scratches in the cylinger wall evident of the copper in the scratches when we rebuilt the engine. First off I tried it as an experiment and didn't expect much, secondly by doing the math I saved a case of oil between oil changes (make that filter changes that's more or less what they were.), thirdly they saved a little face by not killing all of the misquitoes in the neighborhood, only when I would shift. There was a slight performance increase because of the more compression BTW I checked the compression about 500 miles after I put it in. I was in college at the time and the 20 dollars seemed to be better than parking my truck and wait for a rebuild. I'm not saying that oil additives are not gimics I am saying that this one is a better crutch than a feel good gimic. If you use the best oil and filters with real springs in them, change oil regularly your motor will last a whole lot longer that will cost you more as well and over the life of the motor it may even out.
Again my $.02
Sean
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I have heard of those rebuild in a bottle kits, which contain pill things that you put into your sparkplug holes. I guess they are supposed to melt and bond to the rings, or the cylender or something.
I had a car with a transmission problem, I dumped in a can of this stuff I bought from checkers, forgot the name of it, and my transmission would shift smooth for several months. Then, I would change the filter drain the fluid and add another can of this stuff to it and go for another few months. Eventually the stuff stopped working as good and I had to park the car.
But that transmission stuff worked great for a long time. If something is broken, it needs to be fixed the right way, but sometimes we can't afford to fix things the right way. Thankfully for me Checkers sold that transmission product.
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I've known a few people who recommend and use Engine restorer and more than a few of them are ASE Certified Mechanics......some of those "gimmics" do work and some don't...but then again depends on the size of the problem........Not everyone is mechanically inclined or ever torn apart an engine...then again not everyone is a "posting guru" with a head to big to fit into the shop bay doors....someoneasks an honest question...not cause they wanna be ridiculed or their statements blatantly ignored (SEE ABOVE FE Racing's previous post)....they want an opinion of someone else....Matter of fact.....I'm Certified Diesel.....and I just dropped a can of that restore into my truck......hmmm made a difference......besides...this stuff ain't like Motor Honey or Lucas Oil treatment...it's alot thinner...possibilities of it clogging anything I'd think would be slim...unless the motor is full of sludge anyways...it won't be if you maintain it regularly...or if there is some engineering design flaw when the motor wasfirst introduced.Engines get worn...true...but not everyone works a white collar wear Nitrile gloves job....therefore not everyone can afford to have a vehicle down for a given amount of time....if the band aid helps it helps...if it don't...well then don't use it.Hell, an engine will get worn to the point where it won't wear no more then it'll be time for a rebuild...then maybe us blue collars will have some money put away to fix it.Sorry for the long post guys.To answer the original question....I'm using it and I like it...made a difference in my truck so far...so why not.Just MY .02....
I've known a few people who recommend and use Engine restorer and more than a few of them are ASE Certified Mechanics......some of those "gimmics" do work and some don't...but then again depends on the size of the problem........Not everyone is mechanically inclined or ever torn apart an engine...then again not everyone is a "posting guru" with a head to big to fit into the shop bay doors....someoneasks an honest question...not cause they wanna be ridiculed or their statements blatantly ignored (SEE ABOVE FE Racing's previous post)....they want an opinion of someone else....Matter of fact.....I'm Certified Diesel.....and I just dropped a can of that restore into my truck......hmmm made a difference......besides...this stuff ain't like Motor Honey or Lucas Oil treatment...it's alot thinner...possibilities of it clogging anything I'd think would be slim...unless the motor is full of sludge anyways...it won't be if you maintain it regularly...or if there is some engineering design flaw when the motor wasfirst introduced.Engines get worn...true...but not everyone works a white collar wear Nitrile gloves job....therefore not everyone can afford to have a vehicle down for a given amount of time....if the band aid helps it helps...if it don't...well then don't use it.Hell, an engine will get worn to the point where it won't wear no more then it'll be time for a rebuild...then maybe us blue collars will have some money put away to fix it.Sorry for the long post guys.To answer the original question....I'm using it and I like it...made a difference in my truck so far...so why not.Just MY .02....
I agree 100%. Not everyone can afford to "just rebuild" it right now.
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