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Old 12-21-2004, 01:15 AM
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Adapting 48-49 front hubs to 46 spindles

I have 48-49 F-1 hubs on 46 spindles. They required machined bushings due to the larger inner bearings. About 10-12 years ago an article appeared giving a bearing number for the application, that did not require the bushings. Does anyone happen to know that bearing?
Just trying to clean up loose ends on this project. Mike
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I remember seeing the info a long time ago on one of the forums, but........ What I do recall was they got the bearing by taking a micrometer reading of the OD of the spindle (ID of the bearing needed) and the OD of the bearing and finding a good bearing shop. They should be able to cross reference the #'s for you.
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Mike:

This is what I have on my computer. It's for '53-'56 F-100's, but I'm 99.99% sure that F-1's use the same parts.

Inner Seal-
Napa 15214
C.R. 15214
Chicago Rawhide 35461
JKL 49461
National 450461
Victor 49195
Inner Cup-
Timken 14276
Inner Bearing-
Timken 14116
Outer Bearing-
Timken 09067
Outer Cup-
Timken 09195
Wheel Stud-
Balkamp 641-1142

If I remember correctly, the inner bearing has a slightly tighter curve to it and must be "hogged out" a little with a die grinder.

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45ford, that is some great information, even if the 53-56 hubs are different than F-1. Do I understand correctly that those are part numbers to put 53-56 F-100 hubs on 46 spindles? If so I will just go to one of the other forums and ask if the F-1 hubs and early F-100 hubs are the same. Mike
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Mike:

Hmmm, looking at the 48-56 Ford truck chassis catalog, those numbers I gave you may be the stock ones for the F-1 and F-100.

Let me look around, I have the correct numbers to double check with.

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Okay, Mike, here we go again. These numbers were published last summer in Rod & Custom, so they should be good:

Inner Bearing: Timken 14116
Inner Race: Timken 14276
Seal: 473440
Out bearing & race are as stock (F-1, F-100, and earlier Ford use the same parts)

F-1's and F-100's use the same bearing set (double checking this is where I discovered that the first set of number I gave you were stock replacements). They have different spindles, hubs, & brake drums. Some internet searching this morning found several statements saying that F-1 brakes bolt to earlier Ford spindles using the same parts as the F-100 brakes (which is what I was 99.99% sure about).

An alternative to the above that I've used twice for installation on a dropped axle is to use the F-1 spindles (which most people consider to be "worthless") and therefore really cheap, instead of the 42-48 passenger/42-47 truck spindles which can sell for upwards of $100. I then cut the steering arms off and round the base, and use standard early Ford street rod type bolt on steering arms, which I have found at swapmeets for $10-15.

The F-1 spindles use the same kingpin set as the 42-47 Ford trucks.

BTW, the F-1 axle was listed as the factory replacement for the 42-47 and has a boss built into it to mount a tube shock mount.

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Hubs, brakes, etc.

Mike, I am using the 48-49 front brakes along with the F-1 hubs, mounted to 46 spindles. I cut the steering arms off the spindles and attached aftermarket dropped steering arms. Relatively recently I obtained some F-1 spindles after junking out a 49, but thought the kingpins were larger in the F-1's compared to the previous generation. In fact I was thinking about putting them, the drag link, and another component for sale here in the classifieds. Maybe I'll take a closer look at them for my own use. Is there any particular reason they are considered worthless, like due to some design problem?

My reason for using the F-1 components was because of the larger inner bearing, and a more up to date drum brake design.

Thanks for your research and info. It has filled a couple holes for me. Mike
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There's no problem with the F1 setup - I'm running stock on the 48 with no troubles at all. I think it's just that so many guys pull them off and install MII that there's a surplus at the present time.

Only inconvenience I can see is the cost of new front drums due to the extra 1/2" offset. Unique to 48-52 as you probably know.
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Mike and MT Flat, thanks once again. The numbers are written down and filed. Mike
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"Only inconvenience I can see is the cost of new front drums due to the extra 1/2" offset. Unique to 48-52 as you probably know."

Acctually, when I redid the front brakes on my F-1 I used the rear drums from a '70s Ford F-150. They are 2-1/2" drums that fit perfectly in the place of the origionals. Don't know the part number though.

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That is another great piece of info. Somebody on the 48-60 Forum might know the number.
The drums on now are probably ruined. I took them into a machine shop to have them balanced, and when I got them back there were so many holes drilled in them that they looked like swiss cheese.
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