5.6 and 4.6...no big difference at all!
#61
Originally Posted by F-250 94-5.8
Just for your info I bought a f-150 4.6 2wd tow package and the tow rating on it is 9,900 so i dont know what they are talking about. No offense, it pulls my Case 1845G skid steer w/ no problem! The machine weights 6,700 lbs. The 4.6 runs with the 5.4SC 4X4 I ran a couple and they didnt impress me to much. I even took one at the track last fall.
Again, apples and oranges.. The 4wd is very heavy. Probably had different gears,
mk
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I may be reading the chart wrong, and if so I apologize ahead of time.
But I have a copy of the 2005 F150 Brochure from Ford and it looks like the highest towing capacity of any 2005 4.6L F150 is 7100lbs. That's with a 2wd, reg cab long wheelbase with the 3.73 axle.
The only '05 model that's factory rated for 9900lbs is a 5.4L reg cab with 4.10s and the long box. Incidently, that configutaion/engine is the highest tow rating of any 2005 F150.
I'm honestly not challenging you on it but I am wondering how you got a tow rating of 9900lbs with the 4.6L. Is it an older model? According to the 2005 book you can't even get a 4.6L with 4.10 gears, they're only available with a 5.4L.
But I have a copy of the 2005 F150 Brochure from Ford and it looks like the highest towing capacity of any 2005 4.6L F150 is 7100lbs. That's with a 2wd, reg cab long wheelbase with the 3.73 axle.
The only '05 model that's factory rated for 9900lbs is a 5.4L reg cab with 4.10s and the long box. Incidently, that configutaion/engine is the highest tow rating of any 2005 F150.
I'm honestly not challenging you on it but I am wondering how you got a tow rating of 9900lbs with the 4.6L. Is it an older model? According to the 2005 book you can't even get a 4.6L with 4.10 gears, they're only available with a 5.4L.
#63
MountainHound,
My 2004 4.6L 2WD Supercab w/ 3.55 axle is rated to tow 6,300 lbs.
The highest tow rating for a 2004 4.6L is 6,800 lbs for a Regular Cab (3.73 axle and 144" wheelbase). The 3.73 axle is the highest available with the 4.6L.
I still love my 4.6L, and have no regrets. I bought with a budget in mind, because I just don't believe in paying $40K when I really need a $25K truck. That's why I have $100K socked away for retirement.
But; I'm not going to say my 4.6L is as fast as a 5.4L, just that it's as fast as I need. It's able to pass most cars on the road. It can't tow 9,500 lbs, but that would make me spend another $40K to $75K on toys to tow.
Getting the 4.6L and 2WD put me in a XLT Supercab instead of a Reg Cab XL. I paid $25K for the truck, and still got a $10K CD to keep me out of the cat food aisle when I retire.
My 2004 4.6L 2WD Supercab w/ 3.55 axle is rated to tow 6,300 lbs.
The highest tow rating for a 2004 4.6L is 6,800 lbs for a Regular Cab (3.73 axle and 144" wheelbase). The 3.73 axle is the highest available with the 4.6L.
I still love my 4.6L, and have no regrets. I bought with a budget in mind, because I just don't believe in paying $40K when I really need a $25K truck. That's why I have $100K socked away for retirement.
But; I'm not going to say my 4.6L is as fast as a 5.4L, just that it's as fast as I need. It's able to pass most cars on the road. It can't tow 9,500 lbs, but that would make me spend another $40K to $75K on toys to tow.
Getting the 4.6L and 2WD put me in a XLT Supercab instead of a Reg Cab XL. I paid $25K for the truck, and still got a $10K CD to keep me out of the cat food aisle when I retire.
#64
John Boy, great post.
This is what it is all about. ONE should buy the truck that suits them the best, for thier application. You explained it perfectly.
One of the reasons I brought this thread back up to the top was to offer my opinion on two practically identical trucks, one with a 5.4 and one with a 4.6 that are parked side by side in my drive right now.
I wanted to help dispell the myth that the 4.6 and the 5.4 are practically the same when it comes to towing, performance, and extra "kick". People get a BAD impression of Chevy, Ford, or any other manufacturer when the go into the car buying process with certain, unresonable expectations.
I know it is NOT my duty to educate each and every car buyer out there, but I feel that my perspective may help inflence someone to purchase the 5.4, if they had been only considereing the 4.6 based on false representations.
Thank you,
MK
This is what it is all about. ONE should buy the truck that suits them the best, for thier application. You explained it perfectly.
One of the reasons I brought this thread back up to the top was to offer my opinion on two practically identical trucks, one with a 5.4 and one with a 4.6 that are parked side by side in my drive right now.
I wanted to help dispell the myth that the 4.6 and the 5.4 are practically the same when it comes to towing, performance, and extra "kick". People get a BAD impression of Chevy, Ford, or any other manufacturer when the go into the car buying process with certain, unresonable expectations.
I know it is NOT my duty to educate each and every car buyer out there, but I feel that my perspective may help inflence someone to purchase the 5.4, if they had been only considereing the 4.6 based on false representations.
Thank you,
MK
#65
mountainhound,johnboy,and mkoser
real good post guys. i've been watching this post pretty close sence it started and you said it mkoser that people get false pretenses about these pickups watching them darned ford and chevy tv ads. they hear that f150 has a tow of 9900lbs and run to the dealer and dont pay attention get a scab or screw 4x4 4.6 then run around thinking they can tow that much. now i know that that truck WILL pull that cabinded weighted but it is not rated for it. heck the 5.4 aint even rated for it in scab or screw.
they just dont pay attention to the details. now that being said "IMO" and just "IMO"
the 4.6 comes up alittle short when it is pushed to the rated weight limits. does it pull more than rated? sure does,but alot of gear search, motor is tached out,climbing steep grades is a chore. the 5.4 imo and experence has the extra ump to help us guys that exede the weight ratings. i use my f150 like a f250, matter of fact i probally need a 250,but i like f150's and the 5.4 has proven to me to be a heck of a work horse.common sence will tell the masses that the 4.6 and 5.4 aint the same in performace. you have more displacement w/ the 5.4, quite a bit more ci difference due to 5.4's longer stroke. even on paper the two enigines dont = out. i do understand the jest of the orginal post that if you drive a 4.6 regc around town the jump in a 4x4 scab or screw w/ a 5.4 at the steering wheel it might seem that there is no difference in the two trucks,and in part i might agree but the difference is in the force you cant see torque......getting the mass weight underway
real good post guys. i've been watching this post pretty close sence it started and you said it mkoser that people get false pretenses about these pickups watching them darned ford and chevy tv ads. they hear that f150 has a tow of 9900lbs and run to the dealer and dont pay attention get a scab or screw 4x4 4.6 then run around thinking they can tow that much. now i know that that truck WILL pull that cabinded weighted but it is not rated for it. heck the 5.4 aint even rated for it in scab or screw.
they just dont pay attention to the details. now that being said "IMO" and just "IMO"
the 4.6 comes up alittle short when it is pushed to the rated weight limits. does it pull more than rated? sure does,but alot of gear search, motor is tached out,climbing steep grades is a chore. the 5.4 imo and experence has the extra ump to help us guys that exede the weight ratings. i use my f150 like a f250, matter of fact i probally need a 250,but i like f150's and the 5.4 has proven to me to be a heck of a work horse.common sence will tell the masses that the 4.6 and 5.4 aint the same in performace. you have more displacement w/ the 5.4, quite a bit more ci difference due to 5.4's longer stroke. even on paper the two enigines dont = out. i do understand the jest of the orginal post that if you drive a 4.6 regc around town the jump in a 4x4 scab or screw w/ a 5.4 at the steering wheel it might seem that there is no difference in the two trucks,and in part i might agree but the difference is in the force you cant see torque......getting the mass weight underway
#66
Originally Posted by MountainHound
I may be reading the chart wrong, and if so I apologize ahead of time.
But I have a copy of the 2005 F150 Brochure from Ford and it looks like the highest towing capacity of any 2005 4.6L F150 is 7100lbs. That's with a 2wd, reg cab long wheelbase with the 3.73 axle.
The only '05 model that's factory rated for 9900lbs is a 5.4L reg cab with 4.10s and the long box. Incidently, that configutaion/engine is the highest tow rating of any 2005 F150.
I'm honestly not challenging you on it but I am wondering how you got a tow rating of 9900lbs with the 4.6L. Is it an older model? According to the 2005 book you can't even get a 4.6L with 4.10 gears, they're only available with a 5.4L.
But I have a copy of the 2005 F150 Brochure from Ford and it looks like the highest towing capacity of any 2005 4.6L F150 is 7100lbs. That's with a 2wd, reg cab long wheelbase with the 3.73 axle.
The only '05 model that's factory rated for 9900lbs is a 5.4L reg cab with 4.10s and the long box. Incidently, that configutaion/engine is the highest tow rating of any 2005 F150.
I'm honestly not challenging you on it but I am wondering how you got a tow rating of 9900lbs with the 4.6L. Is it an older model? According to the 2005 book you can't even get a 4.6L with 4.10 gears, they're only available with a 5.4L.
-Tim
#67
Originally Posted by mjbesen310
Thats acually the first time I heard the 0-60 times for each engine. Thats not bad at all like I was saying before.....there both extreamly the same performance, 1 second more to a 5.4 is nothing at all. I just don't like it to much when people keep saying there 5.4 blows away 4.6l engines becuase they don't!!
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#70
I think people really do give the 4.6 a bad rap as it really is plenty of motor. I have the 4.6 in a 4x4 reg cab long bed and it has plenty of power. I recently had over 3000 lbs in the bed and it had more than enough power. With the edge on it will spin tires very easily and i only have the 3.55 rear.
#71
I have to admit, I would have bought a 5.4 if they had one on the lot. Mainly because it would help resale. That being said, I am entirely satisfied with the 4.6. I do not buy trucks to race them. I would have kept the Stang if that appealed to me. I wanted a truck that was comfortable, not oversized and looked good. That is what I have. The performance is perfectly suitable to me. I did not want a Screw either. I bought a Scab because that is what I wanted and all that I needed. I thought I was going to have to buy a Screw but luckily they had the truck I wanted in a Scab. It's all just a matter of what your expectations and needs are. If I were going to be towing something more than 6-7k pounds I would just get an F250 anyway.
#72
By the way, that 9,500 pounds of towing is only for the base XL modle. The more you have in the truck and if you have the supercrews, no matter what engine you have in it, you will not be able to tow as much as the base XL can. Any supercrew cannot tow 9,500 pounds since it's a heavier then a base XL modle is.
Nope....thats 11,000lbs thats the heavy duty xl model...supercrew 4x4's do tow 9500....
and hook up a trailer...you'll see a difference very very quickly
#73
Just for your info I bought a f-150 4.6 2wd tow package and the tow rating on it is 9,900 so i dont know what they are talking about. No offense, it pulls my Case 1845G skid steer w/ no problem! The machine weights 6,700 lbs. The 4.6 runs with the 5.4SC 4X4 I ran a couple and they didnt impress me to much. I even took one at the track last fall.