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Originally Posted by Torque1st
Do not buy the maintenance free oil less type compressors. They are not only
horrendously noisy they wear out VERY quickly. They are usually made of aluminum
with the motor directly coupled to the compressor and are usually good for just
a few hundred hours of operation (if you are lucky).
Man I agree with the niosy part!! my craftsman 5 hp direct drive (20 gal) compressor will drive you out of the shop, its so loud!
I have it installed in the pump room outside my garage and it still is loud enough to disturb any conversation going on in the garage.

BUT- I have had my compressor for 8 years (it was my wife's first x-mas gift to me!!) and with little to no maintenance (I know, I know!). it runs all my tools with no problem. but it is hooked inline to a 80 gallon air tank with a bad motor for reserve air supply,too!
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Originally Posted by Crash687
take a good look at how the two are built, you will clearly see the castings are heavier on the IR. IR compressors are 100% duty cycle rated[does not need to shut off], CH is not.
Not saying that CH is junk, will probably work fine if this is just a home use (light duty)compressor. Now if you plan on restoring cars/trucks for a living out of your home, by all means buy an industral air compressor(Gardner Denver, Sullair, IR, Quincy)this is something you are going to run 5 days a week.

To have a good supply of air for just about whatever you want to run, an air compressor sould put out at least 13 to 16 cfm @ 90 psi. 90 psi is where most air tools are rated for air consumption and rated output.
all ch oil lube belt drive compressors are 100% duty cycle the porter cables are only 50% duty cycle but i have run mine past that point many times
 
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Old 12-11-2004, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
all ch oil lube belt drive compressors are 100% duty cycle the porter cables are only 50% duty cycle but i have run mine past that point many times
I checked the CH website, only about half of there belt driven, oil lubed pumps state that they are 100% duty cycle. the half of this equation is they may state that there pumps are 100% rated only if you use synthetic oil in them.
running a compressor past its duty cycle shortens the pumps life, like pulling too much weight behind a truck.
 
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Well I ordered my compressor today..After about 6 hours of online work I got what I think is the best for the money..5hp 20 cfm at 100 psi 19 cfm at 175..20,000 hour rated life...Supposed to be super industrial...Its called Devair made in canada..If my current setup will drive it ok amperage wise I may consider getting a 7.5 hp motor off ebay and a diff pulley and go with that at a later time.
http://www.air-compressorsvacuum-pumps.com/simplex.htm

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how much was it???
 
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Like $1750 with shipping.. What I like about it is its quiet cause it only turns at 500 or so rpm.
 
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devair is the new devilbiss they changed names and moved to canada
 
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Ya I saw that.
 
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Originally Posted by Crash687
take a good look at how the two are built, you will clearly see the castings are heavier on the IR. IR compressors are 100% duty cycle rated[does not need to shut off], CH is not.
Not saying that CH is junk, will probably work fine if this is just a home use (light duty)compressor. Now if you plan on restoring cars/trucks for a living out of your home, by all means buy an industral air compressor(Gardner Denver, Sullair, IR, Quincy)this is something you are going to run 5 days a week.

To have a good supply of air for just about whatever you want to run, an air compressor sould put out at least 13 to 16 cfm @ 90 psi. 90 psi is where most air tools are rated for air consumption and rated output.
I beg to differ on your opinion of IR. I was talking to Dad tonight about the new compressor we got in to go with this new CNC laser machine at work. It's an IR. Dad used a phrase that is verboten on this forum but basically said it wouldn't hold up. IR is NOT 100% duty cycle rated and experiences more long term problems because of it's design to shutoff and restart instead of keeping the pump running and blowing off un-needed air. For home use sure an IR will do OK. But industrial - especially at my employer where we have air tools, a paint booth, and who knows what else running from 7 AM to 4 PM. You'll get to know your compressor mechanic real well getting an IR. I know IR's keep Dad busy with service calls.

A Sullair will give you better performance than any IR. We have a Sullair at work for the main air system and several old CH's that the maintenance guy ripped the pump and motor from and piped the Sullair into the CH tanks and placed these in various places throughout the plant, so high use areas will have a reserve of air.
 
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Old 12-14-2004, 12:43 AM
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There is an immense difference between the industrial duty air compressors and the hardware variety. I/R makes both kinds and you just cannot compare the two types. I have spent a lifetime working on compressed air equipment and can tell you that I/R, Sullair, G/D, Quincy, LeRoi are all excellant machines. The only real difference between them is the quality of their controls. If they weren't good they wouldn't be so popular. You do get what you pay for.
 
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Originally Posted by SirHailstone
IR is NOT 100% duty cycle rated and experiences more long term problems because of it's design to shutoff and restart instead of keeping the pump running and blowing off un-needed air.

A Sullair will give you better performance than any IR. We have a Sullair at work for the main air system and several old CH's that the maintenance guy ripped the pump and motor from and piped the Sullair into the CH tanks and placed these in various places throughout the plant, so high use areas will have a reserve of air.
Does your dad know that IR builds both start-stop and continuous run recipicating compressors? They also build screw and centrifugal compressors also that run continually. Here check the web site for your self IR compressors are 100% duty cycle rated.Chances are it more like the wrong type of compressor for the job not the wrong brand.
All the big industral air compressor manufactures compressors are all in the ball park. They have to be it is a very competitive buiness. Comes down to features, packaging and price.
 
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I-R 7 1/2 hp 24.3cfm. Shop around for the best price. You can throw any tool at it and it hardly breaks a sweat. I wouldn't own anything else.
 
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I got my compressor and I'm really impressed with this unit its all I could want.
The best feature I think is that its real quiet. And it does 20 cfm @100 psi not bad for a 5hp unit.
 
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