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Old 08-17-2005, 06:06 AM
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what next is the next gasket blowing, and oil leaks.

Don't ya love motors?
 
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Old 08-20-2005, 10:15 PM
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Talking

Bob @ "Vintage Motors" has a Warped bit of Humour, he calls & states, "Do I wish to hear the Bad News first or the Good News first"?
I'm thinking "Bloody Hell", what now?
So I say Bad News of course, He then says, "You get to Pick your Truck up, that's the Bad News".
Then he says, "The Good News is everything I was supposed to do is done".
The "Wee Beastie" is a real Ripper!
I really have to Watch so as to not be a "Speed Demon", because the Olde Girl would Light them right up every time, If I didn't.
Sucks the Petrol right down if I do, but sips it when I don't.
I'm bloody well amazed & am going to have a Ripping Good Time, tooling around in the "Wee Beastie"!
BLOODY MARVELOUS!!!!!
Now I need to Paint the Roof & Pillers White, install the Original Power Assist Brake System, Weather Stripes for the Doors, the Anti-Rattle Kits for the windows, unplug the Doors Drain Holes & POR them inside & out then repaint, get a replacement hood out of Canada for her w/ Badging, Attache the Spare Tire Mount inside the Bed, Upgrade the Brake Master Cylinder & add a Proportioning Valve, the Radio & speaker, The Arm Rests, the 2nd Sun Visor.
The only proplem is now is that I'm just about broke because a great deal of the Fabbing that Bob did cost more than he stated it would, which means just about everything I set aside is gone, but so it goes.
Somethings will just have to wait untill I'm able to land a few prime roles in Commercials, Tele, Film & doing Voice Over gigs.
 
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Old 08-21-2005, 06:52 AM
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Thats great!!! Now how about a Video?


Somethings will just have to wait untill I'm able to land a few prime roles in Commercials, Tele, Film & doing Voice Over gigs.
Dude, how about you unmask yourself and let everyone in on who you are?
 
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Old 08-21-2005, 11:41 PM
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Great looking Pix!
Cheque out mine after installation here, https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=400219
scroll down 1/2 way to find them.


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Kinda coincidentlly, I have just completed a similar modification to my '62 F250. Took out the 223 and put in a 300. Work on the engine was done by Majors in Portland, OR. They thought I wanted a bracket racer and were obviously surprised when they learned the engine was going into a 'farm truck'. I put some pics in my gallery. If anyone is interested I have more of the build process.
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Col Flashman, if I read your post right you have a .060" overbore.

Missed the part about how much it was stroked-can you advise? Since the overbore accounts for nine of the extra cubic inches, it couldn't have been much. This power was produced with a mild cam? Interesting.
 

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Old 08-24-2005, 05:26 PM
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Missed the part about how much it was stroked-can you advise? Since the overbore accounts for nine of the extra cubic inches, it couldn't have been much. This power was produced with a mild cam? Interesting.
Wow, I just thought of that and came here to ask myself..weird......


bore X bore X stroke X .7854 X # cylinders = cubic inches


4.06/ 4.06/ 3.98/ .7854 /6 = 309.15574 ci.

hmmm...

4.06 / 4.06 / 4.0166167 / .7844 / 6 = 312 ci.

or

4.06 / 4.06 / 4.01 / .7854 / 6 = 311.48603 ci.

Why would they offset grind the crank only .03 - .0366167?


Another approach

4.08 / 4.08 / 3.98 / .7854 / 6 = 312.20908 ci

If thats the case...good luck with the .080 overbore...

Still an awesome build up!!
 

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Old 08-24-2005, 05:40 PM
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If it's not in this list I've must have lost the rest of the specs somehow.
Exactly, I was extremely pleased & suprised myself by those #'s.

300 H.P. @ 4600 rpm & 400 Torque @ 3200 rpm w/ a 10 to 1 C.R.
It idels @ 675 & is smooth as glass, a quarter was placed on top of the Valve Cover & it Did Not move Nor rattle @ least on the stand anyway.

Ross Pistons 4.060
Hastings Power Flex Rings .060
Federal Mogul Mains .020 Under
Clevite Performance Bearings Std.
Federal Mogul Cam Bearings Std.
Melling Torque Cam
Melling H.V. Oli Pump
Eagle H-beam Rods 6.300 2.100 Rod Journal
Crane Gold Race Roller rockers
ARP Main Stud Kit, Rocker Studs,
Fisher International Ballancer
Bore 4.060
Power Hone 4.060
Full P&P Intake & Exhaust
Performance valve job
Performance Balance job on Steele Crank w/ in 7 grams
Grind Rod Journals to 2.100
Plumb Intake for Heat via Water Pump
Deck Block to Square
Align hone to Factory specs
Deck block for Zero Deck
Offenhauser C Intake (thinking of going to a D/P)
Holley 1850 600 CFM
S.S. Borla 2 into 2 Header
8' of 3" tubes attached to Flowmaster 40's
4 Core Desert Radiator mated w/ the Original Radiator Housing
2 1,200 CPU Electric Fans, on @ 180*, off @ 170* mounted diaginally
MSD 6A Eclectronics Package & Coil
Mid 70's Ford Electronic Ignition (the mallory wouldn't fit?!.)

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Col Flashman, if I read your post right you have a .060" overbore.

Missed the part about how much it was stroked-can you advise? Since the overbore accounts for nine of the extra cubic inches, it couldn't have been much. This power was produced with a mild cam? Interesting.
 
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:45 PM
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Col, what I'm interested in is the low speed torque curve, that is, as far below 3200 as you have information. Ideally, you'd have it for 1000 rpm and up if that's possible. What I'm interested in is the overall utility of the motor, so a complete dyno picture would be helpful if you could post the information.

What I'd like to see is what the port and polish and other breathing enhancements did to the low speed torque curve-that is, from off idle on up. As well as a few other things. Can you shed some light on this?
 
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Old 08-28-2005, 01:38 AM
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Unfortunately the Dyno #'s that are already listed is what was available to me, In other words the Dyno did not go as low as you are asking for.
Don't ask me why, because I really couldn't tell you other than what "Olde Man" Johnson told me, "That this particular Dyno does not like Small C.I. Engines".
 
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Old 08-28-2005, 09:41 AM
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Red flag number 2..


Your engine is designed to make low end grunt, why would it have trouble recording numbers on a dyno at lower rpms? Especially when its making equal to/ if not greater torque than a stock big block anything.

As far as the cubic inches, all you need to know is bore, stroke and how many cylinders, and the constant number of .7854 which applies to any engine. If for no other reason than to know, I would ask them how they came up with 312 ci.
 
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Old 08-28-2005, 03:43 PM
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Evidently it's the way that the Dyno is calibrated & I was in the room w/ the Dyno & the #'s started @ w/ what is listed.
The Math was done by Several FTE'ers Here & those are the #'s they came up w/, not the folks @ JMSRE's.
 
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Old 08-28-2005, 05:32 PM
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Still odd, IMO, that the dyno starts at 3000 rpm.

I offered you the forumula for cubic inches, there is no other formula, FTE member or otherwise, it you have a 4.06 bore, stock 3.98 stroke, your cubic inches are 309.15571.

Just tried to be neighborly and bring it up, enjoy your engine.
 
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Old 08-28-2005, 05:37 PM
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I think he said the crank was offset ground, that could get you 3ci.

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Old 08-28-2005, 05:40 PM
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Yep, it could but my question would be, why? More importantly, if Col. Flashman doesn't know the stroke, where is everyone else finding the additional .03 - .0366167 stroke?
 

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Old 08-28-2005, 08:49 PM
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That's all I'm being as well, Friendly, that's why I used the Smilies to help express it.
As for the rest, I posted all the Numbers I had available to me, several times in this Thread, so everthing needed should be already listed.
I believe that's how the others here were able to come up w/ those Calcs.
JMSRE stated that my 300 was indeed stroked, there's a Off-Set Crank Grind on my Bill & those #'s should be in the list I provided.
There's also the possibility that when I transfered the Data that I mad a Typo, known to happen, don'tcha know .
I'm not the the Math Wiz that others have proven to be here.
I left those kind of things to others that are better @ it.

Originally Posted by Motorhead351
Still odd, IMO, that the dyno starts at 3000 rpm.

I offered you the forumula for cubic inches, there is no other formula, FTE member or otherwise, it you have a 4.06 bore, stock 3.98 stroke, your cubic inches are 309.15571.

Just tried to be neighborly and bring it up, enjoy your engine.
 

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