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Originally Posted by Sgt Wonderful
broncr, "bumpity", what is that supposed to mean?
Sorry for the delayed response - it didn't "take" yesterday.
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05-28-2005, 11:40 AM
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Howdy,
I noticed that a lot of people mention 223 and 262 a lot. Are there many differences between the 223 and 262? (The Col mentioned a 262 crank going into a 223 earlier)
Are 262's really that scarce and will a 300 go anywhere a 262 will go?
Thanks,
Rick
I noticed that a lot of people mention 223 and 262 a lot. Are there many differences between the 223 and 262? (The Col mentioned a 262 crank going into a 223 earlier)
Are 262's really that scarce and will a 300 go anywhere a 262 will go?
Thanks,
Rick
Originally Posted by Fat Fendered Ford
Colonel,
That will be one heck of a truck when you're done. Any issues with mounting the 300? I heard it gets a little tight in '53-'56 but there might be more room in your engine bay. I've talked to you a little in the past about 223's and 262's. I've heard good things about the 300 and will be following your progress with interest.
Were you David Hasselhoff's stunt double or something?
Good luck!
Kevin Kessler
1953 Ford F-100
That will be one heck of a truck when you're done. Any issues with mounting the 300? I heard it gets a little tight in '53-'56 but there might be more room in your engine bay. I've talked to you a little in the past about 223's and 262's. I've heard good things about the 300 and will be following your progress with interest.
Were you David Hasselhoff's stunt double or something?
Good luck!
Kevin Kessler
1953 Ford F-100
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I have been looking for a 262 short block for a race motor buildup, quite awhile now so if you happen to find an extra I could use one. Here is some of the general info on them. The 262’s were made from 1961 to 1964 - (also to 1965 for industrial and stationary equipment use). 262's have a larger Bore of 3.718 x Stroke of 4.03 than the 215 & 223 engines. It is a Truck only motor that was optional for the 1961 to 64 F-600, C-550, C-600 (the C series are the tilt cab trucks) and B-600 trucks (the Buses) Door ID tag code B. In 1964 the 262's were also offered in the F-100, F-250, and F-350) light trucks Door ID tag code B: 262's were used in1964 & 1965 DIVCO trucks ID is the "G" series motor. There are other possible industrial uses and some claim they were used in the F-500, N-500 & N-600, & B-500 too, but I have not been able to verify those as original applications. The 1961 to 1963 262's were rated at 132 H.P. & 224 torque the 1964 & 65 are rated at 152 H.P. & 238 torque. A 262 crank can be made to fit into the 223 by turning down the mains to the 223 size. I have lots of other info on these motors as well as the 215 and 223’s
On swapping the 300 for a 215, 223, or 262 the exterior size is close to the same it would fit anywhere there is a 215, 223, 262 or most any other six for that matter if you are willing to make the motor mounts, modify the carb linkage (carb and intake are on other side of engine compared to the 223 but a later cable type accelerator pedal is the easy way to do this), then fit a new exhaust system (is also on the opposite side from a 223 also easy enough) modify the engine wire harness or adapt the 300 harness, rework clutch linkage if using a standard trans, and the Radiator outlets & hoses, fan and many other small parts. If you start out with a complete running 300 engine and trans it would save you the most time to make it fit in. It would take quite a bit of work but is well worth the effort and still not as much work as changing over from a six to a V8
On swapping the 300 for a 215, 223, or 262 the exterior size is close to the same it would fit anywhere there is a 215, 223, 262 or most any other six for that matter if you are willing to make the motor mounts, modify the carb linkage (carb and intake are on other side of engine compared to the 223 but a later cable type accelerator pedal is the easy way to do this), then fit a new exhaust system (is also on the opposite side from a 223 also easy enough) modify the engine wire harness or adapt the 300 harness, rework clutch linkage if using a standard trans, and the Radiator outlets & hoses, fan and many other small parts. If you start out with a complete running 300 engine and trans it would save you the most time to make it fit in. It would take quite a bit of work but is well worth the effort and still not as much work as changing over from a six to a V8
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05-28-2005, 05:01 PM
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Thanks for the info.
I would love to find a 262 for my 55 F-600.
It would probably be the easiest swap since it came originally with 223. Someone back when I was in grade school installed a 239 OHV V-8. I have narrowed it down to going with a 300 I-6 but if I found a 262 I would probably jump on it.
Do you think there's problems finding rebuild parts for a 262?
The only other consideration it that there's a LOT of 300's out there and lots of parts.
Junk yard 300's are plentiful.
I would also want to get a 5 speed/OD to put behind it unless I could find a decent automatic. I suppose a C-6 would be fine behind a 300 or an E40D. I would lean towards the E40D since it has overdrive. With my 6.80 rear end I REALLY need OD!
I don't think coming up with mounts would be very hard. Doesn't the 300 share similar mounts to some of the big block V-8's?
Anyway I'm going to get the truck running with the 239 V-8. It's very tired but it does run ok and just needs to have the rear seal fixed.
Lots more to do later though
Regards,
Rick
I would love to find a 262 for my 55 F-600.
It would probably be the easiest swap since it came originally with 223. Someone back when I was in grade school installed a 239 OHV V-8. I have narrowed it down to going with a 300 I-6 but if I found a 262 I would probably jump on it.
Do you think there's problems finding rebuild parts for a 262?
The only other consideration it that there's a LOT of 300's out there and lots of parts.
Junk yard 300's are plentiful.
I would also want to get a 5 speed/OD to put behind it unless I could find a decent automatic. I suppose a C-6 would be fine behind a 300 or an E40D. I would lean towards the E40D since it has overdrive. With my 6.80 rear end I REALLY need OD!
I don't think coming up with mounts would be very hard. Doesn't the 300 share similar mounts to some of the big block V-8's?
Anyway I'm going to get the truck running with the 239 V-8. It's very tired but it does run ok and just needs to have the rear seal fixed.
Lots more to do later though
Regards,
Rick
Originally Posted by bubba22349
I have been looking for a 262 short block for a race motor buildup, quite awhile now so if you happen to find an extra I could use one. Here is some of the general info on them. The 262’s were made from 1961 to 1964 - (also to 1965 for industrial and stationary equipment use). 262's have a larger Bore of 3.718 x Stroke of 4.03 than the 215 & 223 engines. It is a Truck only motor that was optional for the 1961 to 64 F-600, C-550, C-600 (the C series are the tilt cab trucks) and B-600 trucks (the Buses) Door ID tag code B. In 1964 the 262's were also offered in the F-100, F-250, and F-350) light trucks Door ID tag code B: 262's were used in1964 & 1965 DIVCO trucks ID is the "G" series motor. There are other possible industrial uses and some claim they were used in the F-500, N-500 & N-600, & B-500 too, but I have not been able to verify those as original applications. The 1961 to 1963 262's were rated at 132 H.P. & 224 torque the 1964 & 65 are rated at 152 H.P. & 238 torque. A 262 crank can be made to fit into the 223 by turning down the mains to the 223 size. I have lots of other info on these motors as well as the 215 and 223’s
On swapping the 300 for a 215, 223, or 262 the exterior size is close to the same it would fit anywhere there is a 215, 223, 262 or most any other six for that matter if you are willing to make the motor mounts, modify the carb linkage (carb and intake are on other side of engine compared to the 223 but a later cable type accelerator pedal is the easy way to do this), then fit a new exhaust system (is also on the opposite side from a 223 also easy enough) modify the engine wire harness or adapt the 300 harness, rework clutch linkage if using a standard trans, and the Radiator outlets & hoses, fan and many other small parts. If you start out with a complete running 300 engine and trans it would save you the most time to make it fit in. It would take quite a bit of work but is well worth the effort and still not as much work as changing over from a six to a V8
On swapping the 300 for a 215, 223, or 262 the exterior size is close to the same it would fit anywhere there is a 215, 223, 262 or most any other six for that matter if you are willing to make the motor mounts, modify the carb linkage (carb and intake are on other side of engine compared to the 223 but a later cable type accelerator pedal is the easy way to do this), then fit a new exhaust system (is also on the opposite side from a 223 also easy enough) modify the engine wire harness or adapt the 300 harness, rework clutch linkage if using a standard trans, and the Radiator outlets & hoses, fan and many other small parts. If you start out with a complete running 300 engine and trans it would save you the most time to make it fit in. It would take quite a bit of work but is well worth the effort and still not as much work as changing over from a six to a V8
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Fred
There have been some set backs.
1)The installer is running a "One Man Shop" & has been have a running battle keeping his Mother alive over the last several months. So their have been days when has has not been able to get into his shop because the Alzheimer facility is not taking proper care of her, Dehidration & Starvation. The ESL Nurses's & Dr.'s that work there just do not seem to understand what Alzheimer's is.
2)I started we just a basic block & tranny for this build & have run into problems locating Peripheral parts such as Pullies, Brackets, ad neusium.
3)Being sold the Incorrect peripheral part, then having to attempt to get a refund & have the correct part located.
There have been some set backs.
1)The installer is running a "One Man Shop" & has been have a running battle keeping his Mother alive over the last several months. So their have been days when has has not been able to get into his shop because the Alzheimer facility is not taking proper care of her, Dehidration & Starvation. The ESL Nurses's & Dr.'s that work there just do not seem to understand what Alzheimer's is.
2)I started we just a basic block & tranny for this build & have run into problems locating Peripheral parts such as Pullies, Brackets, ad neusium.
3)Being sold the Incorrect peripheral part, then having to attempt to get a refund & have the correct part located.
Originally Posted by 1982fordf100
Hey its been a long time since I've heard anything new from this thread. I would imagine by now you would have that 300 in the truck and running, and hopefully driving. So Col Flashman hows the project going? Fred
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I fyou don't want to make your own with a bell crank etc. The Lokar has some nice cable ones. http://www.lokar.com/
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'ello Fellow FTE'rs
Well here's the latest.
Bob @ "Vintage Motors" stated on the Phone that the Engine & Trans are in & that the Fabbed Mounts look great!
Now for all the odd Bits & Bobs, such as finishing up w/ the Radiator Housing, having the Propeller Shaft made, Pipes & Mufflers, etc.
He states that there are lots of Pix, so I sould be able to post some soon.
Any suggestions on Mufflers for a Rather Throatie sound thoughout the RPM range?
Well here's the latest.
Bob @ "Vintage Motors" stated on the Phone that the Engine & Trans are in & that the Fabbed Mounts look great!
Now for all the odd Bits & Bobs, such as finishing up w/ the Radiator Housing, having the Propeller Shaft made, Pipes & Mufflers, etc.
He states that there are lots of Pix, so I sould be able to post some soon.
Any suggestions on Mufflers for a Rather Throatie sound thoughout the RPM range?
Last edited by Col Flashman; 07-20-2005 at 11:23 PM.